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<blockquote data-quote="Mournblade94" data-source="post: 5660315" data-attributes="member: 74608">I enjoy Mutants and MAstermind 3rd edition...&nbsp;But I have to go with MARVEL SUPERHEROES.&nbsp; If you don't want to get bogged down in rules and simulationism like I do, it is the best out there.&nbsp;PLUS you can get alot of the powers books online.&nbsp; MSH I thought was one of the best RPG's I ever played.&nbsp; I played it recently, as a get together, and it was loads of fun.&nbsp; I played it exclusively for about 2 years in the 80's.&nbsp;I am an RPG'er and a comic fan.&nbsp; And a scientist.&nbsp; SO, it is a difficult barrier for me to get over when I realize COMIC book characters have no REAL MEANINGFUL RPG statistics.&nbsp;When I claim THOR can beat HULK in a fight (And don't anyone else Dare to think otherwise!) I would like RPG statistics to go:&nbsp; SEE we can play it out.&nbsp;If I want to know if Elminster can beat Khelben, it is a simple matter of Playing them and seeing who wins, or maybe draws.&nbsp; &nbsp;Thor and Hulk argument does not have that luxury.&nbsp; There are no REAL stats to judge.&nbsp; This hurts my gamer brain.&nbsp; I want to be able to take THOR stats, and HULK stats and pit them against each other.&nbsp; While Thor would UNDOUBTEDLY <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> win, I have no RPG stats to prove that empirical fact<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;Marvel Superheroes was great, because it seemed to be a system acknowledging that we just don't know.&nbsp; The stats were all set up like power levels.&nbsp; You could tweak it how you thought it correct.&nbsp; &nbsp;Thor would just about always beat the Hulk.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mournblade94, post: 5660315, member: 74608"] I enjoy Mutants and MAstermind 3rd edition... But I have to go with MARVEL SUPERHEROES. If you don't want to get bogged down in rules and simulationism like I do, it is the best out there. PLUS you can get alot of the powers books online. MSH I thought was one of the best RPG's I ever played. I played it recently, as a get together, and it was loads of fun. I played it exclusively for about 2 years in the 80's. I am an RPG'er and a comic fan. And a scientist. SO, it is a difficult barrier for me to get over when I realize COMIC book characters have no REAL MEANINGFUL RPG statistics. When I claim THOR can beat HULK in a fight (And don't anyone else Dare to think otherwise!) I would like RPG statistics to go: SEE we can play it out. If I want to know if Elminster can beat Khelben, it is a simple matter of Playing them and seeing who wins, or maybe draws. Thor and Hulk argument does not have that luxury. There are no REAL stats to judge. This hurts my gamer brain. I want to be able to take THOR stats, and HULK stats and pit them against each other. While Thor would UNDOUBTEDLY :) win, I have no RPG stats to prove that empirical fact:) Marvel Superheroes was great, because it seemed to be a system acknowledging that we just don't know. The stats were all set up like power levels. You could tweak it how you thought it correct. Thor would just about always beat the Hulk. [/QUOTE]

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