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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Krolik" data-source="post: 3578537" data-attributes="member: 17219">See, this is the problem. You're not playing Champions. You're playing your own pseudo-rules version of Champions. Nighthawk is a perfect example of a starting level Batman-like character in HERO. He is built to the exact same specifications of every like-hero in Champions: His Damage is completely average, his DCV is slightly above average, his PD is only 2 pts below average, representing losing about 1/2d6 of defensive potential, his Speed is above average, etc. You might be playing 33 Dex, 25 Defense, 7 Speed Nighthawk in your game but that's not what Champions is representing as a "correct" character within the example universe that currently have over 500 superheroes and villains written-up in it. I really see this issue come up a lot. Everyone plays Champions at their own power level, and then they somehow think that their chosen power level is representative of the game itself. It's not. You can tweak the game to your own needs and desires but the examples it's showing you are there for a reason. Any game can be tweaked to your own personal desires. You can tweak M&M just as easily as you can Hero. Give M&M characters 3 more Toughness just like you would Champions characters 5 more PD and most of your stunning issues are solved. And if Nighthawk's Speed isn't greater then anyone else's he's out of luck too. And in HERO he doesn't even have the option of shaking it off with a Hero Point. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> As for your Hero Point issues, they're not supposed to be that rare. Read through the example solo battle in the Beginner's Guide. Hero Points seem to fall out of the sky. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Our players generally get between 4 and 6 per session. This generally includes 1-2 from dealing with personal life Complications and 3-5 coming from combat situtaions: unlucky rolls that lead to quick Stunnings are grounds for a Hero Point in the rules. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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