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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jim Hague" data-source="post: 3579572" data-attributes="member: 17550">Minions are in fact treated differently - a singe hit takes one out, no matter what their Power Level.  In that, someone like Cap could use Takedown Attack to mow through the horde of nameless goons, or simply Take 10 and not have to roll at all.Low-powered Minions (like the PL 5 Soldier) typically have to use tricks like Combined Fire to present a serious threat to PCs of PL 10 or so, due to either high Defense, Toughness, or both.  I've seen several writeups of Cap on the Think Tank, and generally he's presented with a Toughness to Defense trade-off, representing a lack of superhuman durability in favor of being the guy you can't hit.  Regardless, if you've got enough guys concentrating on a single target, it's likely they'll hit, and possibly do damage.  In the cas eof the fight in question, I'd say Cap probably did a combination of Take 10 (for Minions) and Defenseive attack - the SHIELD guys didn't strike me as being all that competent, relatively speaking, thus Cap could just rely on his fighting skill and have a good chance of hitting them for the takedown.</blockquote>