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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 3631104" data-attributes="member: 1139">Fenris- I began to think about what it would take to build your character on 165 pp- Angels from D&amp;D have a ton of abilities active all of the time and it's hard to deal with this in M&amp;M.&nbsp; Here's my take on what your character might look like at.&nbsp; I'm not using Container because I haven't had UP long enough to be that familiar with using it.&nbsp; ANGELPL: 11&nbsp; (165 pp)ABILITIES:&nbsp;&nbsp; STR: 20 (+5)&nbsp; DEX: 16 (+3)&nbsp;&nbsp; CON: 20 (+5)&nbsp;&nbsp; INT: 16 (+3)&nbsp;&nbsp; WIS: 18 (+4)&nbsp;&nbsp; CHA: 18 (+4)SKILLS:&nbsp; Bluff&nbsp; (+4), Climb&nbsp; (+5), Concentration&nbsp; (+4), Diplomacy 12 (+16), Disguise&nbsp; (+4), Drive&nbsp; (+3), Escape Artist&nbsp; (+3), Gather Info&nbsp; (+4), Handle Animal&nbsp; (+4), Intimidate&nbsp; (+4), Know: Arcane Lore 8 (+11), Know: Theology and Philosophy 8 (+11), Know: History 8 (+11), Notice 12 (+16), Search&nbsp; (+3), Sense Motive 12 (+16), Stealth&nbsp; (+3), Survival&nbsp; (+4), Swim&nbsp; (+5) FEATS:&nbsp; Animal Empathy, Attack Focus (6), Dodge Focus (6), Eidetic Memory, Evasion (1), Fearless, Interpose, Move-by Action, Power Attack, Second Chance (2) (Mind Control and Possession), Takedown AttackPOWERS:&nbsp; Divine Power Array: (13 pp) Healing Touch (Heal 5) [5], AP: Tongues (Comprehend Languages 4-read, write, speak any language, and several at once if needed) (8 pp), AP: Emotion Control 10 (Area- Burst, No-Range, Only Hope) (10 pp), AP: Light Control 5 (100 foot radius) (10 pp), Angel's Wings (Flight 3, Drawbacks: Not in Liquids, Power Loss- when wings restrained) (4 pp)Morph 1 &quot;Angel to/from Leang Wu secret id&quot; [1 pp],Super-Senses 11 (True Sight, Danger Sense (Visual)) [11 pp], Immortality (5 pp)Angel's Grace: Protection 5 (5 pp)Sword of the Heavens (Device 2, Easy to Lose), Power Feat: Restricted (those worthy) (Total: 7 pp): Strike 6 (PF: Mighty, Affects Insubstantial, Accurate, Improved Crit) COMBAT:&nbsp; Attack +3 [Sword +11 attack, +11 damage (crit 19-20)]&nbsp;&nbsp; Defense 22 (13 flat-footed)&nbsp;&nbsp; Init&nbsp; +3SAVES:&nbsp; Toughness 10 (+10 flat-footed),&nbsp; Fortitude +10,&nbsp; Reflex +8,&nbsp; Will +10Abilities 48&nbsp; +&nbsp; Skills 15 (60 ranks)&nbsp; +&nbsp; Feats 22&nbsp; +&nbsp; Powers 46&nbsp; +&nbsp; Combat 18&nbsp; +&nbsp; Saves 16&nbsp; –&nbsp; Drawbacks 0 = 165 / 165Some notes:1) Divine Power Array including Comprehend is kind of a kludge, but it was the only way I could get the character down to 165 pp.&nbsp; To me, Tongues is more of a magical-type ability that could be part of an AP array and Super-Senses is an innate ability that's always active.&nbsp; I've got Healing, Hope and Light in here- Fear didn't seem as appropriate so I left it out.&nbsp; Another way to go with Heal would be something like Heal 3 (Standard Action, PF: Persistent), but Heal is quite front-loaded and good even when bought at 5 ranks so this felt a little abusive.&nbsp; 2) The skills are very bare-bones, but I got the 3 most important Knowledges, Diplomacy, Notice and Sense Motive.3) Ability Scores and Feats came out pretty well.&nbsp; Charisma 2 points higher might have been nice, but I only had so many pp.&nbsp; I also wish I had the pp for some ranks in Inspire- but 2 ranks of Inspire isn't a very useful ability and there weren't enough pp for Inspire 4-5.4) My conception of an Angel didn't call for so many immunities because I'm thinking of an Angel as a more mortal creature- no Life Support because you do need to breathe- Angels are similar to men.&nbsp; This has the advantage of saving quite a few pp, if you don't mind feeling like an Enhanced Being rather than a Godly Being Above It All.&nbsp; I used Second Chance against Mind Control/Possession instead of Immunity.&nbsp; I used Immortality to represent how different Angels are from Mortals.&nbsp; If I had 1 immunity to add back that I took out, it would probably be Immunity: Starvation and Thirst.5) No Aura Sight.&nbsp; I thought True Sight was the more flavorful and important Super-Sense (and requires less work from the GM) and I only had so many pp.&nbsp; Note that Sense Motive can let you detect people under the influence of Mental Powers and you have a very high Sense Motive score.6) I think the Sword came out reasonably well.&nbsp; It isn't flaming, but you could always interpret 3 points of its Strike (beyond a normal sword's 3) as coming from flame damage.7) Getting this character to come in at 165 pp was a huge pain.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elric, post: 3631104, member: 1139"] Fenris- I began to think about what it would take to build your character on 165 pp- Angels from D&D have a ton of abilities active all of the time and it's hard to deal with this in M&M. Here's my take on what your character might look like at. I'm not using Container because I haven't had UP long enough to be that familiar with using it. ANGEL PL: 11 (165 pp) ABILITIES: STR: 20 (+5) DEX: 16 (+3) CON: 20 (+5) INT: 16 (+3) WIS: 18 (+4) CHA: 18 (+4) SKILLS: Bluff (+4), Climb (+5), Concentration (+4), Diplomacy 12 (+16), Disguise (+4), Drive (+3), Escape Artist (+3), Gather Info (+4), Handle Animal (+4), Intimidate (+4), Know: Arcane Lore 8 (+11), Know: Theology and Philosophy 8 (+11), Know: History 8 (+11), Notice 12 (+16), Search (+3), Sense Motive 12 (+16), Stealth (+3), Survival (+4), Swim (+5) FEATS: Animal Empathy, Attack Focus (6), Dodge Focus (6), Eidetic Memory, Evasion (1), Fearless, Interpose, Move-by Action, Power Attack, Second Chance (2) (Mind Control and Possession), Takedown Attack POWERS: Divine Power Array: (13 pp) Healing Touch (Heal 5) [5], AP: Tongues (Comprehend Languages 4-read, write, speak any language, and several at once if needed) (8 pp), AP: Emotion Control 10 (Area- Burst, No-Range, Only Hope) (10 pp), AP: Light Control 5 (100 foot radius) (10 pp), Angel's Wings (Flight 3, Drawbacks: Not in Liquids, Power Loss- when wings restrained) (4 pp) Morph 1 "Angel to/from Leang Wu secret id" [1 pp], Super-Senses 11 (True Sight, Danger Sense (Visual)) [11 pp], Immortality (5 pp) Angel's Grace: Protection 5 (5 pp) Sword of the Heavens (Device 2, Easy to Lose), Power Feat: Restricted (those worthy) (Total: 7 pp): Strike 6 (PF: Mighty, Affects Insubstantial, Accurate, Improved Crit) COMBAT: Attack +3 [Sword +11 attack, +11 damage (crit 19-20)] Defense 22 (13 flat-footed) Init +3 SAVES: Toughness 10 (+10 flat-footed), Fortitude +10, Reflex +8, Will +10 Abilities 48 + Skills 15 (60 ranks) + Feats 22 + Powers 46 + Combat 18 + Saves 16 – Drawbacks 0 = 165 / 165 Some notes: 1) Divine Power Array including Comprehend is kind of a kludge, but it was the only way I could get the character down to 165 pp. To me, Tongues is more of a magical-type ability that could be part of an AP array and Super-Senses is an innate ability that's always active. I've got Healing, Hope and Light in here- Fear didn't seem as appropriate so I left it out. Another way to go with Heal would be something like Heal 3 (Standard Action, PF: Persistent), but Heal is quite front-loaded and good even when bought at 5 ranks so this felt a little abusive. 2) The skills are very bare-bones, but I got the 3 most important Knowledges, Diplomacy, Notice and Sense Motive. 3) Ability Scores and Feats came out pretty well. Charisma 2 points higher might have been nice, but I only had so many pp. I also wish I had the pp for some ranks in Inspire- but 2 ranks of Inspire isn't a very useful ability and there weren't enough pp for Inspire 4-5. 4) My conception of an Angel didn't call for so many immunities because I'm thinking of an Angel as a more mortal creature- no Life Support because you do need to breathe- Angels are similar to men. This has the advantage of saving quite a few pp, if you don't mind feeling like an Enhanced Being rather than a Godly Being Above It All. I used Second Chance against Mind Control/Possession instead of Immunity. I used Immortality to represent how different Angels are from Mortals. If I had 1 immunity to add back that I took out, it would probably be Immunity: Starvation and Thirst. 5) No Aura Sight. I thought True Sight was the more flavorful and important Super-Sense (and requires less work from the GM) and I only had so many pp. Note that Sense Motive can let you detect people under the influence of Mental Powers and you have a very high Sense Motive score. 6) I think the Sword came out reasonably well. It isn't flaming, but you could always interpret 3 points of its Strike (beyond a normal sword's 3) as coming from flame damage. 7) Getting this character to come in at 165 pp was a huge pain. [/QUOTE]

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