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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 3632942" data-attributes="member: 1139">Right, but he has Acrobatics +17 (which is about the same as the core martial artist) and he'll feint with that as much as he uses Startle.&nbsp; So if I were to decrease his Intimidate by say, 4 points, then it would only rarely be worth it to use Startle at all and I'd like to use both without feeling like one is much less effective than the other.&nbsp; I could give him Drawback [Less Intimidating than meets the eye] to cover out of combat stuff- maybe -8 to Intimidate out of combat for 1 pp back or something (assuming that you figure intimidate in/out of combat are each half of its value).&nbsp; That feels a little like +1 pp for almost free, but it would let me get Benefit: Fame <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elric, post: 3632942, member: 1139"] Right, but he has Acrobatics +17 (which is about the same as the core martial artist) and he'll feint with that as much as he uses Startle. So if I were to decrease his Intimidate by say, 4 points, then it would only rarely be worth it to use Startle at all and I'd like to use both without feeling like one is much less effective than the other. I could give him Drawback [Less Intimidating than meets the eye] to cover out of combat stuff- maybe -8 to Intimidate out of combat for 1 pp back or something (assuming that you figure intimidate in/out of combat are each half of its value). That feels a little like +1 pp for almost free, but it would let me get Benefit: Fame :) [/QUOTE]

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