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<blockquote data-quote="jian" data-source="post: 9582007" data-attributes="member: 78087"><p>Just saw this for the first time in cinema (and in concert, too) and thought it held up better than I remembered. As a kid, I thought the second half dragged a bit, but that seemed not to be the case this time around. It’s still spectacular, an incredibly seminal and pure superhero story. And Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder are both amazing,</p><p></p><p>(Though the 70s sexism, oy. What’s with cutting out all the mums? “We will always be with you, Kal-El, by which I mean me, I won’t bother recording Lara in these crystals. Also, I’m going to homeschool you at the North Pole for twelve years, never mind if Martha worries.”)</p><p> </p><p>(Also: “I know you’re the best reporter here, Lois, but I’m giving your beat to a tall white guy without a college degree because he’s a damn fine typist.”)</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I noticed what I thought was an interesting inconsistency in the film (not surprising - honestly the script is a bit of a mess) about Krypton.</p><p></p><p>1) When the recording of Jor-El speaks to Clark at the Fortress of Solitude, he says that Krypton exploded several thousands of years ago. Which is fine, presumably baby Kal-El was in suspended animation and the ship doesn’t have FTL. It also makes Lara’s reaction about how primitive Earth is more interesting - she’d presumably have last seen it around 2000-1000 BC. Also, fragments of Krypton would probably take at least that long to get to Earth.</p><p></p><p>2) During his planning, Lex states that Krypton exploded in 1948, and that it took Kal-El 3 years to get here. Which is also fine, and baby Kal indeed aged about that much. Apparently the ship has FTL now. What that doesn’t explain is how fragments of Krypton only took 3 years to get to Earth.</p><p></p><p>What do you think? Is Jor-El mistaken and the ship somehow just got to Earth a lot faster?</p><p></p><p>(Also, Lex quotes Lois’ interview as his source, when we saw the whole interview on screen and he didn’t say any of that. Maybe Superman came back later to fill in some facts and figures?)</p><p></p><p>(Also, honestly, I think the kryptonite is a complete ass pull by Lex. It’s narratively not necessary - the main distraction is that there are two missiles and Superman can’t catch them both - and its only real function is to give Miss Tessmacher something to do.)</p><p></p><p>(That said, Hackensack, NJ is basically half a second away from New York (and Metropolis is very clearly NY in this film) as the Superman flies and it’s really not much of a distraction. Maybe shoot the missile at Paris instead? That way you get to free Zod et al without having yet another atomic bomb plot.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jian, post: 9582007, member: 78087"] Just saw this for the first time in cinema (and in concert, too) and thought it held up better than I remembered. As a kid, I thought the second half dragged a bit, but that seemed not to be the case this time around. It’s still spectacular, an incredibly seminal and pure superhero story. And Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder are both amazing, (Though the 70s sexism, oy. What’s with cutting out all the mums? “We will always be with you, Kal-El, by which I mean me, I won’t bother recording Lara in these crystals. Also, I’m going to homeschool you at the North Pole for twelve years, never mind if Martha worries.”) (Also: “I know you’re the best reporter here, Lois, but I’m giving your beat to a tall white guy without a college degree because he’s a damn fine typist.”) Anyway, I noticed what I thought was an interesting inconsistency in the film (not surprising - honestly the script is a bit of a mess) about Krypton. 1) When the recording of Jor-El speaks to Clark at the Fortress of Solitude, he says that Krypton exploded several thousands of years ago. Which is fine, presumably baby Kal-El was in suspended animation and the ship doesn’t have FTL. It also makes Lara’s reaction about how primitive Earth is more interesting - she’d presumably have last seen it around 2000-1000 BC. Also, fragments of Krypton would probably take at least that long to get to Earth. 2) During his planning, Lex states that Krypton exploded in 1948, and that it took Kal-El 3 years to get here. Which is also fine, and baby Kal indeed aged about that much. Apparently the ship has FTL now. What that doesn’t explain is how fragments of Krypton only took 3 years to get to Earth. What do you think? Is Jor-El mistaken and the ship somehow just got to Earth a lot faster? (Also, Lex quotes Lois’ interview as his source, when we saw the whole interview on screen and he didn’t say any of that. Maybe Superman came back later to fill in some facts and figures?) (Also, honestly, I think the kryptonite is a complete ass pull by Lex. It’s narratively not necessary - the main distraction is that there are two missiles and Superman can’t catch them both - and its only real function is to give Miss Tessmacher something to do.) (That said, Hackensack, NJ is basically half a second away from New York (and Metropolis is very clearly NY in this film) as the Superman flies and it’s really not much of a distraction. Maybe shoot the missile at Paris instead? That way you get to free Zod et al without having yet another atomic bomb plot.) [/QUOTE]
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