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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 9702426" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>My ranking of all Superman films (I've seen):</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Superman</em></strong> (1978) - The classic. It is hard to be objective about this, and I still cringe with the "Can you read my mind?" sequence when I re-watch, but as a Gen Xer this was a formative film - up there with <em>Raiders of the Lost Ark </em>and<em> Star Wars. </em>Somehow Ned Beatty is one of the most memorable characters.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Man of Steel</em></strong> (2013) - IIRC, I liked it better the second time around. It has aged well - a brooding, dark vision with unusual Kryptonian aesthetics. Cavill is great, Amy Adams as well even if she diverges from Kidder.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Batman v Superman</em></strong> (2016) - Almost no one agrees with me, but this is underrated, in my opinion, and a fun watch. Yes, its dark, and yes the creature and fight in the end is drawn out and a bit hokey, but two-thirds of the film is really good and darkly epic, and it really captures its own vibe. People complain about Eisenstein, but I think he makes the part his own in an interesting way, and is creepily menacing. For me the most surprising part was that I actually like Ben Affleck as Batman. Who would have thunk? It also strikes the right balance for Gadot's Wonder Woman. She isn't a terribly good actress, and works better in small doses, imo, but she's quite potent in this one.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em><strong><em>Superman II</em></strong> </em></strong>(1981)<strong><em> - </em></strong>What can we say about General Zod and his merry gang? They're fun, frightening, and ridiculous all at the same time. Zod and Hackman carry the film. Arguably a better movie than the first, but not quite as mythic.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Superman</em></strong> (2025) - See previous post. When I re-watch it in a year or two, I might re-rank. Big gap and then...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Justice League</em></strong> (2021 director's cut) - Improved enough to be a solid completion to the Synder trilogy, but I honestly think Steppenwolf was a terrible choice for a primary villain -- he's arguably the least interesting villain in 21st century comic movies. It might have worked better as a 10-episode series. WW, Aquaman, and Cyborg are all kind of uninteresting and there's just not enough Superman. The sets of Atlantis and the Amazon island feel a bit paper-thin. And why is it so arctic in Amnesty Bay, Maine? They somehow manage to make Darkseid seem un-menacing and cartoonish.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Superman Returns </em></strong>(2006) - Not a bad film, just quite forgettable. But Spacey does a great interpretation of Hackman's Luthor.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Justice League</em></strong> (2017) - See above, but worse.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Superman III </em></strong>(1983) - I barely remember this one. I'm guessing it wasn't the work Richard Pryor was the most proud of.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><em>Superman IV</em></strong> (1987) - <em>Nuclear Man!</em></li> </ol><p></p><p>There's a HUGE gap between the first five and 6-8, another gap before 9-10. I might re-arrange 3-5 at some point, but am going with the above for now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 9702426, member: 59082"] My ranking of all Superman films (I've seen): [LIST=1] [*][B][I]Superman[/I][/B] (1978) - The classic. It is hard to be objective about this, and I still cringe with the "Can you read my mind?" sequence when I re-watch, but as a Gen Xer this was a formative film - up there with [I]Raiders of the Lost Ark [/I]and[I] Star Wars. [/I]Somehow Ned Beatty is one of the most memorable characters. [*][B][I]Man of Steel[/I][/B] (2013) - IIRC, I liked it better the second time around. It has aged well - a brooding, dark vision with unusual Kryptonian aesthetics. Cavill is great, Amy Adams as well even if she diverges from Kidder. [*][B][I]Batman v Superman[/I][/B] (2016) - Almost no one agrees with me, but this is underrated, in my opinion, and a fun watch. Yes, its dark, and yes the creature and fight in the end is drawn out and a bit hokey, but two-thirds of the film is really good and darkly epic, and it really captures its own vibe. People complain about Eisenstein, but I think he makes the part his own in an interesting way, and is creepily menacing. For me the most surprising part was that I actually like Ben Affleck as Batman. Who would have thunk? It also strikes the right balance for Gadot's Wonder Woman. She isn't a terribly good actress, and works better in small doses, imo, but she's quite potent in this one. [*][B][I][B][I]Superman II[/I][/B] [/I][/B](1981)[B][I] - [/I][/B]What can we say about General Zod and his merry gang? They're fun, frightening, and ridiculous all at the same time. Zod and Hackman carry the film. Arguably a better movie than the first, but not quite as mythic. [*][B][I]Superman[/I][/B] (2025) - See previous post. When I re-watch it in a year or two, I might re-rank. Big gap and then... [*][B][I]Justice League[/I][/B] (2021 director's cut) - Improved enough to be a solid completion to the Synder trilogy, but I honestly think Steppenwolf was a terrible choice for a primary villain -- he's arguably the least interesting villain in 21st century comic movies. It might have worked better as a 10-episode series. WW, Aquaman, and Cyborg are all kind of uninteresting and there's just not enough Superman. The sets of Atlantis and the Amazon island feel a bit paper-thin. And why is it so arctic in Amnesty Bay, Maine? They somehow manage to make Darkseid seem un-menacing and cartoonish. [*][B][I]Superman Returns [/I][/B](2006) - Not a bad film, just quite forgettable. But Spacey does a great interpretation of Hackman's Luthor. [*][B][I]Justice League[/I][/B] (2017) - See above, but worse. [*][B][I]Superman III [/I][/B](1983) - I barely remember this one. I'm guessing it wasn't the work Richard Pryor was the most proud of. [*][B][I]Superman IV[/I][/B] (1987) - [I]Nuclear Man![/I] [/LIST] There's a HUGE gap between the first five and 6-8, another gap before 9-10. I might re-arrange 3-5 at some point, but am going with the above for now. [/QUOTE]
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