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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9723347" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I mean, the big problem is:</p><p></p><p>A) Everything about all his movies and interviews says "this man is a shallow thinker"/human labrador. I have never seen him come across as "smart" or "thoughtful" in anything but "stoner shower thoughts" kind of way in an interview.</p><p></p><p>B) The real alternative he's a total fascist lunatic (c.f. 300 above), because he actually made a very extreme comic which the real Spartans would have been like "Nuh-uh" about more extreme, rather than like, making it more real or historical or relevant or w/e.</p><p></p><p>And you claim he was trying to make Superman more relevant/real - which I think is true, but also he's not a deep thinker (doesn't mean he's not creative or skilled - I've met a number of skilled artists who were absolutely lights on nobody's home when it came to like, conscious ideas.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a great illustration of shallow a thinker he is, actually, because instead of making it be a "maybe" thing that's raised once and then him being really proud when Clark chooses differently, chooses altruistically, Pa Kent continues to be "No just let people die, grrr!" about it to the point where it literally insists Clark let HIM die specifically to make this point and like really engrain it (when the whole situation means Clark probably could have saved him without breaking The Masquerade/causing Paradox, honestly), and we're supposed to this as a glorious and altruistic sacrifice, and I absolutely know that Snyder thinks it is, but in practice, I was in the theatre - I heard the audience gasp and then a lot of "Oh my god really"-type semi-uncomfortable laughs. He doesn't understand how funny this is to most people, how it's an interesting idea but really doesn't work emotionally, even though he honestly did a good job shooting and editing it and so on.</p><p></p><p>Likewise with the fight being in the city, I don't think it even really occurred to Snyder that this was anything other than "LOOKS KEWL BRO", I don't think he was thinking "Huh Supes would be killing thousands by doing this" but a lot of the audience was like, a bit offput by that - I'm not saying a majority because suspension of disbelief etc. but like, more than a few.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No he didn't lol.</p><p></p><p>He had one (1) idea about this. It was a bad idea, albeit a pretty original one, and he really harped on it, and then hinged emotional scene on the same one profoundly silly idea.</p><p></p><p>One idea is never a "deep dive" outside of the worst YouTube channels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9723347, member: 18"] I mean, the big problem is: A) Everything about all his movies and interviews says "this man is a shallow thinker"/human labrador. I have never seen him come across as "smart" or "thoughtful" in anything but "stoner shower thoughts" kind of way in an interview. B) The real alternative he's a total fascist lunatic (c.f. 300 above), because he actually made a very extreme comic which the real Spartans would have been like "Nuh-uh" about more extreme, rather than like, making it more real or historical or relevant or w/e. And you claim he was trying to make Superman more relevant/real - which I think is true, but also he's not a deep thinker (doesn't mean he's not creative or skilled - I've met a number of skilled artists who were absolutely lights on nobody's home when it came to like, conscious ideas. This is a great illustration of shallow a thinker he is, actually, because instead of making it be a "maybe" thing that's raised once and then him being really proud when Clark chooses differently, chooses altruistically, Pa Kent continues to be "No just let people die, grrr!" about it to the point where it literally insists Clark let HIM die specifically to make this point and like really engrain it (when the whole situation means Clark probably could have saved him without breaking The Masquerade/causing Paradox, honestly), and we're supposed to this as a glorious and altruistic sacrifice, and I absolutely know that Snyder thinks it is, but in practice, I was in the theatre - I heard the audience gasp and then a lot of "Oh my god really"-type semi-uncomfortable laughs. He doesn't understand how funny this is to most people, how it's an interesting idea but really doesn't work emotionally, even though he honestly did a good job shooting and editing it and so on. Likewise with the fight being in the city, I don't think it even really occurred to Snyder that this was anything other than "LOOKS KEWL BRO", I don't think he was thinking "Huh Supes would be killing thousands by doing this" but a lot of the audience was like, a bit offput by that - I'm not saying a majority because suspension of disbelief etc. but like, more than a few. No he didn't lol. He had one (1) idea about this. It was a bad idea, albeit a pretty original one, and he really harped on it, and then hinged emotional scene on the same one profoundly silly idea. One idea is never a "deep dive" outside of the worst YouTube channels. [/QUOTE]
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