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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6399745" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Heh, I find it rather revealing the different examples given.</p><p></p><p> [MENTION=6777224]Hard[/MENTION]coreD&Dgirl gave the example of playing a straight out of the Bo9S Swordsage. No BAUS races and a no special rules for the class. Sure, it's from a supplement, but, we're not talking about something that requires any extra work from the DM, other than knowing what the class does.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, [MENTION=9037]Elf Witch[/MENTION]'s example is a player who is trying to force the DM to allow him/her to play a character that blatantly violates every single (perfectly reasonable) requirement that the DM has laid down. And then adds in characterisation of the player of "whining" and completely immature.</p><p></p><p>No real conclusions here, but, it's funny to me to see the difference in examples. The automatic presumptions of player=whiney, immature git vs the poor, downtrodden, under appreciated DM who's just trying to do his/her job.</p><p></p><p>It would be nice in these kinds of conversations if people could at least try to assume good faith on all sides of the table. </p><p></p><p>Then again, threads like this just make me very happy for the group I have. No one tries to "break" anyone else's game, while, at the same time, the DM is perfectly willing to trust that the player will do his/her best to make sure that whatever character gets played will fit within the campaign being played. So our Shardmind works in Darksun and the Minotaur Bard works in Dragonlance and the Kobold bard works in the World's Largest Dungeon. </p><p></p><p>It's a table situation that I've really come to treasure when everyone at the table just trusts everyone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6399745, member: 22779"] Heh, I find it rather revealing the different examples given. [MENTION=6777224]Hard[/MENTION]coreD&Dgirl gave the example of playing a straight out of the Bo9S Swordsage. No BAUS races and a no special rules for the class. Sure, it's from a supplement, but, we're not talking about something that requires any extra work from the DM, other than knowing what the class does. OTOH, [MENTION=9037]Elf Witch[/MENTION]'s example is a player who is trying to force the DM to allow him/her to play a character that blatantly violates every single (perfectly reasonable) requirement that the DM has laid down. And then adds in characterisation of the player of "whining" and completely immature. No real conclusions here, but, it's funny to me to see the difference in examples. The automatic presumptions of player=whiney, immature git vs the poor, downtrodden, under appreciated DM who's just trying to do his/her job. It would be nice in these kinds of conversations if people could at least try to assume good faith on all sides of the table. Then again, threads like this just make me very happy for the group I have. No one tries to "break" anyone else's game, while, at the same time, the DM is perfectly willing to trust that the player will do his/her best to make sure that whatever character gets played will fit within the campaign being played. So our Shardmind works in Darksun and the Minotaur Bard works in Dragonlance and the Kobold bard works in the World's Largest Dungeon. It's a table situation that I've really come to treasure when everyone at the table just trusts everyone else. [/QUOTE]
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