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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6400059" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>You do understand that the entire point of 5E it to allow the playstyle of the editions that came before? To allow groups to tailor the game to fit their prefrences and for some that does not mean elves, dwarves, humans and halflings. </p><p></p><p>I ban races for flavor in a setting. Like I said I banned dwarves and the dragonborn I use is from Races of Dragons. In most of 3.5 games I ban the paladin from the pHB and use the prestige paladin from unearthed arcana and I use the ranger from a third party book. </p><p></p><p>What if your friends don't want to play what you want to what do you do? Do you say play elsewhere? That of course is fair it is your house but I would be wary if you pulled that a lot because then it becomes either do it my way or get out. And that is blackmail. </p><p></p><p>I am not saying just abandon a game but I have a question for you why you choose to abandon a game simply because the DM has banned a few things out of a hundred? Are you telling me that if he hates efrit but the rest of the game is good you will be unhappy and not be willing to go ahead and play over this one thing?</p><p></p><p>Well since I have never had a player who actually plays at my table accuse me of being unreasonable and walk I think I can fairly judge myself to be a reasonable DM. But I a interested in you telling me how I am unreasonable? </p><p></p><p>I think players are uncreative if they can't make a fun character with multitude of choices available just because a few things are not available. It seems very petty to me say if I can't play a dwarf in this game then you have completely ruined the game and you are a bad DM for doing so. </p><p></p><p>Yes DMs who ban a lot and refuse to work with their players ever are uncreative DMs. But sometimes what a player wants does not work. For example I played in a game with no elves they had left the world generations before. Why should the DM have to change that just because one player just has to play an elf this time it is not like the DM has banned elves in every game. </p><p></p><p>Not all DMs have the time to build more than one setting if the players don't like the idea then why don't they float an idea and offer to DM? I have no issue with someone else DMing it gives me a chance to play</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 6400059, member: 9037"] You do understand that the entire point of 5E it to allow the playstyle of the editions that came before? To allow groups to tailor the game to fit their prefrences and for some that does not mean elves, dwarves, humans and halflings. I ban races for flavor in a setting. Like I said I banned dwarves and the dragonborn I use is from Races of Dragons. In most of 3.5 games I ban the paladin from the pHB and use the prestige paladin from unearthed arcana and I use the ranger from a third party book. What if your friends don't want to play what you want to what do you do? Do you say play elsewhere? That of course is fair it is your house but I would be wary if you pulled that a lot because then it becomes either do it my way or get out. And that is blackmail. I am not saying just abandon a game but I have a question for you why you choose to abandon a game simply because the DM has banned a few things out of a hundred? Are you telling me that if he hates efrit but the rest of the game is good you will be unhappy and not be willing to go ahead and play over this one thing? Well since I have never had a player who actually plays at my table accuse me of being unreasonable and walk I think I can fairly judge myself to be a reasonable DM. But I a interested in you telling me how I am unreasonable? I think players are uncreative if they can't make a fun character with multitude of choices available just because a few things are not available. It seems very petty to me say if I can't play a dwarf in this game then you have completely ruined the game and you are a bad DM for doing so. Yes DMs who ban a lot and refuse to work with their players ever are uncreative DMs. But sometimes what a player wants does not work. For example I played in a game with no elves they had left the world generations before. Why should the DM have to change that just because one player just has to play an elf this time it is not like the DM has banned elves in every game. Not all DMs have the time to build more than one setting if the players don't like the idea then why don't they float an idea and offer to DM? I have no issue with someone else DMing it gives me a chance to play [/QUOTE]
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