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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6400854" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Perhaps.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I advocate leaving if the DM or game is egregious. Planescape might be egregious for him. It didn't sound that way, it sounded like it just wasn't his preference.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. You are putting your own spin on my words. I never once advocated that the DM's fun trumps that of the players. I'm a firm believer in trying to make the game fun for all of the players, including the DM. He's a player too. What I am against, though, is a player who tries to run roughshod over the DM or the campaign. A player who comes up with an idea, but the DM says no and that player sulks. Or a player who wants to play a Dragonborn after finding out that Dragonborn are monsters and not PCs in this particular campaign.</p><p></p><p>If a player has a complaint, I am all for him airing it out with the DM. A lot of times, it's a simple misunderstanding that can be resolved. But if a player repeatedly has problems with the game and the rest of the players do not, typically that means that it is not the DM, but the player with the issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's the way he stated it. One for all and all for one, but at the first sign of an issue, he decides to bow out.</p><p></p><p>He might really believe that it is one for all, but it sounded like it was not "Hussar for all". He did not give the campaign a chance, he just bailed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I get it that someone does not like a given campaign style. I don't prefer Planescape. But, different people have different ideas about what "one for all" means.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for conflict resolution, the system they used was good. Have a discussion. But as part of that discussion, he played the "I'm leaving card". Sorry, but that's a pretty darn heavy card to play and it's one that some players have the group power to play with no risk of really leaving. My way or the highway. I'm ok with him leaving, but he didn't play the card to leave. If so, he would have left. No, it sounds like he played the card to get his way and change the campaign.</p><p></p><p>In the past when various groups have had discussions on which campaign to play, I do not remember a player ever playing the "I'm leaving" card. Ever. It just sounds wrong to me. I'm glad that you are ok with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6400854, member: 2011"] Perhaps. I advocate leaving if the DM or game is egregious. Planescape might be egregious for him. It didn't sound that way, it sounded like it just wasn't his preference. Nope. You are putting your own spin on my words. I never once advocated that the DM's fun trumps that of the players. I'm a firm believer in trying to make the game fun for all of the players, including the DM. He's a player too. What I am against, though, is a player who tries to run roughshod over the DM or the campaign. A player who comes up with an idea, but the DM says no and that player sulks. Or a player who wants to play a Dragonborn after finding out that Dragonborn are monsters and not PCs in this particular campaign. If a player has a complaint, I am all for him airing it out with the DM. A lot of times, it's a simple misunderstanding that can be resolved. But if a player repeatedly has problems with the game and the rest of the players do not, typically that means that it is not the DM, but the player with the issue. It's the way he stated it. One for all and all for one, but at the first sign of an issue, he decides to bow out. He might really believe that it is one for all, but it sounded like it was not "Hussar for all". He did not give the campaign a chance, he just bailed. I get it that someone does not like a given campaign style. I don't prefer Planescape. But, different people have different ideas about what "one for all" means. As for conflict resolution, the system they used was good. Have a discussion. But as part of that discussion, he played the "I'm leaving card". Sorry, but that's a pretty darn heavy card to play and it's one that some players have the group power to play with no risk of really leaving. My way or the highway. I'm ok with him leaving, but he didn't play the card to leave. If so, he would have left. No, it sounds like he played the card to get his way and change the campaign. In the past when various groups have had discussions on which campaign to play, I do not remember a player ever playing the "I'm leaving" card. Ever. It just sounds wrong to me. I'm glad that you are ok with it. [/QUOTE]
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