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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HardcoreDandDGirl" data-source="post: 6401154" data-attributes="member: 82746">your right instead you call people entitled and other related words... if I remember right maybe whinny...no the problem with our side of the fence is that we are promoting simple ideas like talking and working stuff out, you on the other hand are not part of a group, just you keep being insulting and dismissive.this is a very simple discussion, Is it the DMs game or the Groups game? is the DM just another player taking on the role of the world, or is the DM the final word in everything? so what is it you think that it means that in almost 20 years (wow I'm getting old)of gaming I have walked out of a lot of games? what do you think?also I have no problem with DM campaign setting elements, as long as the whole group agrees to it. I see no reason to for instince say that if 6 of us want to play, the DM says "Lets play Darksun" that it is the end of a discussion, it is the beginning of one. There is no reason that can't end with us playing darksun, but it might end with us playing spelljamer (I think that is the fartherst diffrent setting) instead please show me where in any of our examples we "Got our panties in a bind" (and being a woman I find that saying offal funny) We either said OK, or tried to change the persons mind with a frank and open discussion....</blockquote>