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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6404466" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>back in 2e we had an issue where 1 DM hated Psionics, and 1 player who pretty much only liked psychic characters... so they could not really play together (the DM in question never was a PC until one of my 3e games years later) </p><p></p><p>The reason that Larry (DM) hated psionics was because he didn't understand them. He used to say things like second level characters having disintegrate at will, or then everyone needs to get defense modes. </p><p></p><p>The player Ross on the other hand was flighty and hated preparing spells, and also hated playing combat characters (3e and 4e really widened his repertoire with sorcerer bard and warlock). He tried playing Theives once or twice and always had a problem with one part or another...</p><p></p><p>The way we fixed this was I (third party) spent an entire weekend not only explaining the psionic book and cards to larry, but pitched that he try it, by having his new game have an illythid invasion... </p><p></p><p>We are now about 17 years later... Larry afterwards let psionics in no problem, and even found he kinda like them... and when he played his first 3e PC was a multi classed Psywarrior. </p><p></p><p></p><p>In less successful news was me trying to run a forgotten realms game, and me trying to play in a pathfinder game (both I have talked about a lot on these boards.)</p><p></p><p>It isn't something that works everytime. Infact I am sure that a lot of times it doesn't. However I have a few examples of it working great. </p><p></p><p>I have a problem with "In all my worlds I will never have X" if at the same tiem you want a player to play in those games and they love X.</p><p></p><p>to use your example [MENTION=2]Piratecat[/MENTION] you said you would never use guns (well to be fair you had a cool refluff idea I like because I also like magitech stuff, but lets pretend you wouldn't even do that.) If one of your regular players said they really wanted to do a gunslinger, and can only play once a week they would have to choose not to play your game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6404466, member: 67338"] back in 2e we had an issue where 1 DM hated Psionics, and 1 player who pretty much only liked psychic characters... so they could not really play together (the DM in question never was a PC until one of my 3e games years later) The reason that Larry (DM) hated psionics was because he didn't understand them. He used to say things like second level characters having disintegrate at will, or then everyone needs to get defense modes. The player Ross on the other hand was flighty and hated preparing spells, and also hated playing combat characters (3e and 4e really widened his repertoire with sorcerer bard and warlock). He tried playing Theives once or twice and always had a problem with one part or another... The way we fixed this was I (third party) spent an entire weekend not only explaining the psionic book and cards to larry, but pitched that he try it, by having his new game have an illythid invasion... We are now about 17 years later... Larry afterwards let psionics in no problem, and even found he kinda like them... and when he played his first 3e PC was a multi classed Psywarrior. In less successful news was me trying to run a forgotten realms game, and me trying to play in a pathfinder game (both I have talked about a lot on these boards.) It isn't something that works everytime. Infact I am sure that a lot of times it doesn't. However I have a few examples of it working great. I have a problem with "In all my worlds I will never have X" if at the same tiem you want a player to play in those games and they love X. to use your example [MENTION=2]Piratecat[/MENTION] you said you would never use guns (well to be fair you had a cool refluff idea I like because I also like magitech stuff, but lets pretend you wouldn't even do that.) If one of your regular players said they really wanted to do a gunslinger, and can only play once a week they would have to choose not to play your game. [/QUOTE]
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