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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6404501" data-attributes="member: 67338">do you not see how that could be my answer to you as well?I mean in reality that is the answer to all of this. Some times its a problem player, some times its a problem dm (heck some times I'm the problem player or dm) sometimes there is no problem player or DM sometimes it's just conflicts in two people trying to be reasonable and not communicating well, and sometimes it is BOTH a problem player AND a problem DM...I know this is all about a D&D environment, but I also play oWoD, and I used to have a Vampire storyteller who was a HUGE control freak... I mean you couldn't even make your own character sheet, you submitted a background (min 800 words max 4,000 words), he read it, made changes then sent it back to you to get your approval, and you could make changes and back and forth until it was agreed on, then he would send you a character sheet fully made (yup the multi page one with backgrounds spelled out in detail) for the game. He also expected you to keep a log of every xp spent and every change to backgrounds and have it avalibul for 'inspection' at a moments notice...we put up with it because he had extremely open ended and aswome stories... until the Art issue came up. Art was his best friend who had been away (college another state) who came home and wanted to play a character that he designed... so he wrote in detail everything he trained in, and submitted an example character sheet... The character was a Tremere (magic vampire) and the Story teller had this rule of only 1 Tremere per campaign and another player already had one.  Art asked since we all wanted to play a tremere anyway (Yes whole group would love to) what the harm would be if the next campaign the story teller ran was an all tremere group... as a group we discussed how much we wanted to, but the story teller was firm "One tremere per campaign.." So art made a chemist and blew up the entire Elysium (meeting place for PCs and NPCs) TPKing the game... then submitted his tremere for the next campaign...BOTH problem DM(well storyteller) and A MAJOR problem Player... to make matters worse, the story teller would not kick art ot the curb or even get mad at him... because they were best friends...</blockquote>

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