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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6405007" data-attributes="member: 9037">Some adults to behave like children now and then and when they do they are no different than a two year old throwing a tantrum. Well there is one difference the two year doesn't know better.  An adult should know better. An adult should accept that they are not always going to get their way and that sometimes not every campaign is to their taste and if they think they are not going to have fun the adult thing to do is to not play not go ahead and play with a chip on their shoulder not caring if they ruin everyone else time at the table.As for unclenching in the very first game she DMed she allowed in anything the players asked for. I don't know how more accommodating you can get to not only allow 3.5 WOTC in but third party as well. She trusted the players who were more experienced than her to not do anything that would make it hard for her as a novice DM. She allowed in things she hadn't even read because she trusted her players. And it became a disaster. And when she openly told the players look I cannot handle this some chose to be difficult over it and in the end derailed the game. Most hobbies involving other people have rules and social contracts. Take the SCA you cannot fight even playing around with steel weapons at an SCA event. The reason for this is insurance purposes and the fact that some adults no matter how you treat them cannot be trusted to behave in an adult manner. I find it hard to believe in your entire adult life you have never come across an immature person who lacks the responsibility of behaving as an adult. K has sabotaged both my roommate's games and two other games with other DMs in the 18 years I have known him. And each time it was because he either didn't get his way or he was allowed to play anything he wanted and it overpowered the game leading to everyone at the table being unhappy and he refused to see that he needed to change the character or work with the DM to bring it into power with the rest of the party. He can't admit that when things go bad that he helped it go that way that he played a part in it. When I DM K I am very careful about what he is allowed to bring in and if I am not sure I go to other DMs who know him and ask their advice. Now I have been lucky he has never been so unhappy that he has behaved badly. On the flipside I have to watch what kind of PC R makes because he sometimes makes these lame ducks PCs which would not be bad except he is miserable because they are so weak. I have learned to say no and tell him why. I am saving him, me and the other players being frustrated. You and I have very different definitions of micromanaging  from what i am reading you think if DM does not allow everything in the game for what ever reason is micromanaging. Where as I think it is a DM who does not allow the players to contribute to the world , who rail roads to the point that you have no choice and gets involved in character creation to the point that you will only make the PC to his requirements.</blockquote>

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