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<blockquote data-quote="tlantl" data-source="post: 5891373" data-attributes="member: 55225">When I think of role playing and social interaction in D&amp;D I don't immediately think of rolling dice. I think of the player conversing with the npc I'm playing. I like to keep any dice in the background. I don't want the player to have any idea how they are affecting the npc until I tell them what the results are. When a die roll is called for in a social situation I don't want a confrontation style opposed roll to determine the outcome I want the player to feel his high charisma or strength had an effect but the dice didn't determine the outcome. Although in reality the dice might be the determining factor made secretly by the DM (using his discretion and new found empowerment)Rather than have diplomacy vs sense motive or some such, I'd be more comfortable with a baseline number to check against with the player's ability score modifier (or whatever the new system employs) to be used to modify the result. This could be further modified by the situation whether good or bad. I certainly don't want skill challenges or some other bizarre method of determining how the players or the group as a whole, by using dice alone, end up determining the outcome of delicate negotiations or shows of strength.I think the group should role play not roll play in these encounters. persuasive players could get the job done without a single roll of the dice. Less effective players could get some help from their character sheets in the form of reaction adjustments derived from their abilities, spells, feats, or what have you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tlantl, post: 5891373, member: 55225"] When I think of role playing and social interaction in D&D I don't immediately think of rolling dice. I think of the player conversing with the npc I'm playing. I like to keep any dice in the background. I don't want the player to have any idea how they are affecting the npc until I tell them what the results are. When a die roll is called for in a social situation I don't want a confrontation style opposed roll to determine the outcome I want the player to feel his high charisma or strength had an effect but the dice didn't determine the outcome. Although in reality the dice might be the determining factor made secretly by the DM (using his discretion and new found empowerment) Rather than have diplomacy vs sense motive or some such, I'd be more comfortable with a baseline number to check against with the player's ability score modifier (or whatever the new system employs) to be used to modify the result. This could be further modified by the situation whether good or bad. I certainly don't want skill challenges or some other bizarre method of determining how the players or the group as a whole, by using dice alone, end up determining the outcome of delicate negotiations or shows of strength. I think the group should role play not roll play in these encounters. persuasive players could get the job done without a single roll of the dice. Less effective players could get some help from their character sheets in the form of reaction adjustments derived from their abilities, spells, feats, or what have you. [/QUOTE]

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