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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8621996" data-attributes="member: 16814">Edwards quite enjoys other kinds of games, and has an active set of articles and podcasts where he plays them.  Yes, he's very interested and very much enjoys narrativist games -- but the idea that it's entirely invented and doesn't mean anything has to completely ignore the very different structure and play of a host of games that it describes -- like Pbta, FitD, Dogs in the Vineyard, Sorcerer, My Life with Master, Trollbabes, Burning Wheel, so, so many amazing games.Gamist is an attempt to categorize what you want to get out of a game, as is Simulationist, as is Narrativist.  None of them are presented in any kind of negative or degenerate light -- they're steelmaned in the articles to present them as strong, independent concepts.  Claiming this usual canard that Edwards was just trying to make things he didn't like (not in evidence) look bad is a commonly passed concept by people who were heavily invested in gatekeeping their preferred play primacy.  This sentiment is pure transference.I disagree in many places with Edwards, but I can articulate why I disagree and don't need to resort to an extended ad hominin to discredit Edwards' ideas by casting Edwards as a villain.</blockquote>