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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8623852" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>I'm trying to be polite. I accept that other people care deeply about something and it took me a while to realize we're just speaking different languages, using a framework I care nothing about, something I think is too abstract to be useful. Not sure what else to say - for some people game theory is a cool interesting topic to discuss on it's own merit. Maybe that comes across as being dismissive, or my saying that game theory in general is pointless. It's not my intent, just that <em>to me</em> it adds no value.</p><p></p><p>Throw in the occasional implied or stated "If you really understood you'd agree" and it gets a bit frustrating. I don't think D&D falls neatly into any one category. I'd be surprised if any game with the type of flexibility of D&D could. You can go from a game where nothing outside of combat is ever decided by a die roll and in-combat declarations frequently bypass rules to a game where every uncertain outcome is decided by the roll of a dice and PCs just kick doors and loot treasure. The rules explicitly call out both extremes as perfectly normal and okay. Or, just as likely, I'm not speaking the same language.</p><p></p><p>But then I get posts like this asking me to explain myself. So I attempt to explain myself ... which then leads to people asking me to explain my explanation of my explanation. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>P.S. It doesn't help much when some of the posts come across, intentionally or not, as game snobbery. I get it. A lot of people play more game systems than I do. Until recently (and then COVID <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> ) I simply didn't have enough bandwidth to play games more than once or maybe twice a month. When I do get more time we tend to play board games. So while I've played some one shots, I play D&D because the people I play with prefer it. I get tired of people listing off games <em>as if </em>it gives them some secret knowledge that I can't possibly comprehend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8623852, member: 6801845"] I'm trying to be polite. I accept that other people care deeply about something and it took me a while to realize we're just speaking different languages, using a framework I care nothing about, something I think is too abstract to be useful. Not sure what else to say - for some people game theory is a cool interesting topic to discuss on it's own merit. Maybe that comes across as being dismissive, or my saying that game theory in general is pointless. It's not my intent, just that [I]to me[/I] it adds no value. Throw in the occasional implied or stated "If you really understood you'd agree" and it gets a bit frustrating. I don't think D&D falls neatly into any one category. I'd be surprised if any game with the type of flexibility of D&D could. You can go from a game where nothing outside of combat is ever decided by a die roll and in-combat declarations frequently bypass rules to a game where every uncertain outcome is decided by the roll of a dice and PCs just kick doors and loot treasure. The rules explicitly call out both extremes as perfectly normal and okay. Or, just as likely, I'm not speaking the same language. But then I get posts like this asking me to explain myself. So I attempt to explain myself ... which then leads to people asking me to explain my explanation of my explanation. :rolleyes: P.S. It doesn't help much when some of the posts come across, intentionally or not, as game snobbery. I get it. A lot of people play more game systems than I do. Until recently (and then COVID :mad: ) I simply didn't have enough bandwidth to play games more than once or maybe twice a month. When I do get more time we tend to play board games. So while I've played some one shots, I play D&D because the people I play with prefer it. I get tired of people listing off games [I]as if [/I]it gives them some secret knowledge that I can't possibly comprehend. [/QUOTE]
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