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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8626048" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, it isn't that simple! Players in most PbtA games are very active participants in the formulation of the world (setting). In Dungeon World the GM is told very explicitly that they will ask questions and use the answers. It isn't a hard mechanically governed aspect of play, but it is DEEPLY a part of the agenda! Beyond that, in most cases in PbtA games (again there are definitely exceptions here) the GM is pretty much entirely expected to frame ONLY scenes which address the dramatic needs of the characters, and there are generally mechanisms (like DW bonds and alignment amongst others) which specifically generate these things on purpose.I mean, yes, in some sense the GM does control the challenges presented to the PCs and has the responsibility for how they resolve, this is a necessary part of generating drama, and is largely why earlier generations of gamers/designers who were interested in dramatic play found it difficult to give much control to the players. It was the working out of the Story Now kind of process that brought that together. It didn't happen by discussing 3-fold model, GNS brought that out with its definitions of Narrativism, which I do think have some critical differences with the GDS 'dramatic'. I'll let others correct/elaborate on that who have spent more time in that space.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8626048, member: 82106"] Well, it isn't that simple! Players in most PbtA games are very active participants in the formulation of the world (setting). In Dungeon World the GM is told very explicitly that they will ask questions and use the answers. It isn't a hard mechanically governed aspect of play, but it is DEEPLY a part of the agenda! Beyond that, in most cases in PbtA games (again there are definitely exceptions here) the GM is pretty much entirely expected to frame ONLY scenes which address the dramatic needs of the characters, and there are generally mechanisms (like DW bonds and alignment amongst others) which specifically generate these things on purpose. I mean, yes, in some sense the GM does control the challenges presented to the PCs and has the responsibility for how they resolve, this is a necessary part of generating drama, and is largely why earlier generations of gamers/designers who were interested in dramatic play found it difficult to give much control to the players. It was the working out of the Story Now kind of process that brought that together. It didn't happen by discussing 3-fold model, GNS brought that out with its definitions of Narrativism, which I do think have some critical differences with the GDS 'dramatic'. I'll let others correct/elaborate on that who have spent more time in that space. [/QUOTE]

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