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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8629305" data-attributes="member: 7026617">Oh, yes, GDS Sim absolutely does not want any dirty metagame influence in its purist form; though it will grudgingly accept a bit of it under some circumstances, only to patch limitations in the game system or input data it has (going back and rolling back an event because its realized it was not possible with the other information already at hand).  Dramatists considered it one of their necessary tools, and Gamists it varied as to how they percieved it (I think Gleichman found it offputting because it felt too much like a thumb-on-the-scale of success, while I always thought as long as it was baked into the mechanics it was just part of the Game structure.  I don't recall if Brad Szonze had a position on it, and if so what it was, and the three of use were the only consistent Gamism proponents in the group for any period).I thought your original post referenced Dramatism, not Sim, though, which may make my response seem nonsensical.</blockquote>