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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8629699" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Fascinating! I had been wondering how one might go about making a game that was both Values-and-issues and Score-and-Achievement, since the latter tends to value quantification and the former is usually not interested in that. This sounds like it marries those two purposes together, with a clever reversal of the usual structure that Score is built around (making it interpretive, almost like, as you mentioned elsewhere, a &quot;salon&quot; or &quot;writer's circle&quot; kind of thing).I would consider this to be a Values-and-Issues game at its heart, with a Score-and-Achievement undercurrent that could, as you say, be elevated to the primary purpose of play if one chose to. Sort of the exact reverse of 4e, which has Score-and-Achievement as its baseline game-purpose, but which has enough components and &quot;DMs should really do X&quot; advice, likely by intent, that it serves a Values-and-Issues purpose as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8629699, member: 6790260"] Fascinating! I had been wondering how one might go about making a game that was both Values-and-issues [I]and[/I] Score-and-Achievement, since the latter tends to value quantification and the former is usually not interested in that. This sounds like it marries those two purposes together, with a clever reversal of the usual structure that Score is built around (making it interpretive, almost like, as you mentioned elsewhere, a "salon" or "writer's circle" kind of thing). I would consider this to be a Values-and-Issues game at its heart, with a Score-and-Achievement undercurrent that could, as you say, be elevated to the primary purpose of play if one chose to. Sort of the exact reverse of 4e, which has Score-and-Achievement as its baseline game-purpose, but which has enough components and "DMs should really do X" advice, likely by intent, that it serves a Values-and-Issues purpose as well. [/QUOTE]

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