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Supposing D&D is gamist, what does that mean?
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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8631860" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>That's completely circular, mate! <em>"I assume X is my sole apex agenda, I can change Y without affecting X, which proves X is the sole apex agenda!" </em>It's like, <em>"We can change lyrics without changing the music so that proves the song is primarily about music."</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This exactly demonstrates why "Genre/setting for it's own right" is an absurd standard (and this equally applies to high-concept sim even if the thing emulated was not some pre-established genre but something made for the game.) You just argued that a thing that constantly happens in Star Trek is a genre conflict for Star Trek! Yes, there are story reasons for why the transporters don't always work, but there are always other consideration in a media or a game. "Setting/genre/etc on it's own right" is not thing, except perhaps in some bizarre travel guide to the setting which you enjoy completely passively.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8631860, member: 7025508"] That's completely circular, mate! [I]"I assume X is my sole apex agenda, I can change Y without affecting X, which proves X is the sole apex agenda!" [/I]It's like, [I]"We can change lyrics without changing the music so that proves the song is primarily about music."[/I] This exactly demonstrates why "Genre/setting for it's own right" is an absurd standard (and this equally applies to high-concept sim even if the thing emulated was not some pre-established genre but something made for the game.) You just argued that a thing that constantly happens in Star Trek is a genre conflict for Star Trek! Yes, there are story reasons for why the transporters don't always work, but there are always other consideration in a media or a game. "Setting/genre/etc on it's own right" is not thing, except perhaps in some bizarre travel guide to the setting which you enjoy completely passively. [/QUOTE]
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