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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8639491" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Which is fine, but we need to move beyond this to actual implication on the design of system and experience of play.Rule 0 was conceived of and implemented (design) to achieve Simulationist Priorities (during play).&nbsp; From White Wolf and Dragonlance onward, this has been overwhelmingly about (a) High Concept Simulationist priorities and (b) at any time (when it happens) is as relevant as change outcomes (what happens and why) in the formulation because of its capacity to wrest the trajectory of play from player to GM.&nbsp; And its not just the implications of that in the moment, its the chilling effect that this paradigm inculcates all subsequent moments of play with (Player:&nbsp; &quot;...in that moment of play, was my input subordinated there or was it honored...I don't know because the process is GM-pacing&quot;). That is the biggest proverbial tool in the toolbox for GM-directed, High Concept Simulationist play.&nbsp; For Gamist or Narrativist play?&nbsp; Its utter kryptonite.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 8639491, member: 6696971"] Which is fine, but we need to move beyond this to[I] actual implication on the design of system and experience of play.[/I] Rule 0 was conceived of and implemented (design) to achieve Simulationist Priorities (during play). From White Wolf and Dragonlance onward, this has been overwhelmingly about (a) High Concept Simulationist priorities and (b) [I]at any time (when it happens)[/I] is as relevant as [I]change outcomes (what happens and why)[/I] in the formulation because of its capacity to wrest the trajectory of play from player to GM. And its not just the implications of that[I] in the moment[/I], its the [I]chilling effect that this paradigm inculcates all subsequent moments of play with[/I] (Player: "...in that moment of play, was my input subordinated there or was it honored...I don't know because the process is GM-pacing"). That is the biggest proverbial tool in the toolbox for GM-directed, High Concept Simulationist play. For Gamist or Narrativist play? Its utter kryptonite. [/QUOTE]

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