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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8639808" data-attributes="member: 42582">The essence of a skill challenge is not incremental success/failure. It is that resolving the challenge resolves the scene.Action scenes in MHRP/Cortex+ Heroic are the same in this respect, even though they have the possibility of not being incremental (eg if the first acting hero rolls very well and generates sufficiently many sufficiently large effect dice to bring the scene to its close).Versus tests in Burnin Wheel are the same in this respect, although manifestly not incremental.Contrast your steps:How are the stakes defined? In terms of resolving the situation? Or - in the case of a jump - in the ingame causal terms of possibly falling down a chasm?And what constrains the narration? You say that it &quot;must follow&quot; and &quot;be meaningful&quot;. But how does that relate to the situation? In Baker's example, saying &quot;You disarm the guy and totally kick his butt&quot; follows, and in some sense is meaningful, but leaves it wide open for the GM to declare that while the fight was taking place the ship set sail.Hence why [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER] says that 5e's task resolution skill checks are prompts: they give the GM additional material (like a disarmed guy whose butt got kicked) that must be woven into the overall fiction; but they don't actually resolve situations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8639808, member: 42582"] The essence of a skill challenge is not incremental success/failure. It is that resolving the challenge resolves the scene. Action scenes in MHRP/Cortex+ Heroic are the same in this respect, even though they have the possibility of not being incremental (eg if the first acting hero rolls very well and generates sufficiently many sufficiently large effect dice to bring the scene to its close). Versus tests in Burnin Wheel are the same in this respect, although manifestly not incremental. Contrast your steps: How are the stakes defined? In terms of resolving the situation? Or - in the case of a jump - in the ingame causal terms of possibly falling down a chasm? And what constrains the narration? You say that it "must follow" and "be meaningful". But how does that relate to the situation? In Baker's example, saying "You disarm the guy and totally kick his butt" [i]follows[/i], and in some sense is [i]meaningful[/i], but leaves it wide open for the GM to declare that while the fight was taking place the ship set sail. Hence why [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER] says that 5e's task resolution skill checks are prompts: they give the GM additional material (like a disarmed guy whose butt got kicked) that must be woven into the overall fiction; but they don't actually resolve situations. [/QUOTE]

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