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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8652564" data-attributes="member: 42582">Again, all you seem to be doing here is pointing out that conflict resolution doesn't exclusively model in-fiction causal processes. Results are connected to what overall goal the character is hoping to achieve by performing the task. We can even see that in the &quot;purse full of bricks&quot; case - we don't ask whether or not the character's Inner Strength is strong enough to allow her to swing enough bricks hard enough to really have a chance of knocking out a thug. Inner Strength is a descriptor with a hint of metaphor, not a rating of the character's capacity to produce adrenaline when needed. Just as the reason the game participants accept that the documents are in the safe is because that satisfies the PC's dramatic need, so the reason the game participants accept that enough bricks were swung with enough force is because that satisfied the other PC's dramatic need.If you want strictly task resolution, because you don't like the way conflict resolution factors dramatic need into outcomes, there are many game systems that offer it! The flipside is that you will need someone to make a decision, independent of the resolution framework, as to when a conflict is done. Typically that power is granted to the GM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8652564, member: 42582"] Again, all you seem to be doing here is pointing out that conflict resolution doesn't exclusively model in-fiction causal processes. Results are connected to [i]what overall goal the character is hoping to achieve by performing the task[/i]. We can even see that in the "purse full of bricks" case - we don't ask whether or not the character's Inner Strength is strong enough to allow her to swing enough bricks hard enough to really have a chance of knocking out a thug. Inner Strength is a descriptor with a hint of metaphor, not a rating of the character's capacity to produce adrenaline when needed. Just as the reason the game participants accept that the documents are in the safe is because that satisfies the PC's dramatic need, so the reason the game participants accept that enough bricks were swung with enough force is because that satisfied the other PC's dramatic need. If you want strictly task resolution, because you don't like the way conflict resolution factors dramatic need into outcomes, there are many game systems that offer it! The flipside is that you will need someone to make a decision, independent of the resolution framework, as to when a conflict is done. Typically that power is granted to the GM. [/QUOTE]

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