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<blockquote data-quote="Bloodstone" data-source="post: 382017" data-attributes="member: 7298">you might be right about weapons of speed or frenzied berzerker. about whirlwind attack though: from p15 of the D&amp;D FAQ:In other words, if you are dual wielding and you perform a whirlwind attack you get all of your off hand attacks. With GTWF you get 3 off hand attacks, with STWF that means 4 off hand attack. With PTWF...well, that could depend on your interpretation...The poorly worded part is in both the flavor text:And the first damn line after the big bold word benefit.That is poorly worded to me. Those lines are what cause the confusion. Normally I'm the kind of guy to argue for the intent of the rules, but here I'm not 100% sure of what that intent is... it's a feat in a book that has feats that let you shoot at a target that is miles away without any range penalties, chop off peoples heads with your finger tips and cast spells that summon 10 adult red dragons....I think it is kind of hard to argue for what the correct interpretation of the rules is when comparing it to other epic level abilites. Per the Sage, you can't get two attacks from two weapons of speed. Like bonuses don't &quot;stack&quot; type ruling...bad call in my eyes, but I can live with it. I honestly don't think you should get an extra off hand attack just because your primary weapon is a weapon of speed, mind you, but the wording of the rules makes it a bit unclear and I have seen people argue for it... the Frenzied Berzerker thing is a little more confusing though.honestly, somone should probably just e-mail Andy and/or Bruce and be done with it...I guess that somone will be me, since I mentioned it... I'll post their reply when I get it.hmm...ok I got Andy's e-mail addy...anyone know Bruce's?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bloodstone, post: 382017, member: 7298"] you might be right about weapons of speed or frenzied berzerker. about whirlwind attack though: from p15 of the D&D FAQ: In other words, if you are dual wielding and you perform a whirlwind attack you get all of your off hand attacks. With GTWF you get 3 off hand attacks, with STWF that means 4 off hand attack. With PTWF...well, that could depend on your interpretation... The poorly worded part is in both the flavor text: And the first damn line after the big bold word benefit. That is poorly worded to me. Those lines are what cause the confusion. Normally I'm the kind of guy to argue for the intent of the rules, but here I'm not 100% sure of what that intent is... it's a feat in a book that has feats that let you shoot at a target that is miles away without any range penalties, chop off peoples heads with your finger tips and cast spells that summon 10 adult red dragons....I think it is kind of hard to argue for what the correct interpretation of the rules is when comparing it to other epic level abilites. Per the Sage, you can't get two attacks from two weapons of speed. Like bonuses don't "stack" type ruling...bad call in my eyes, but I can live with it. I honestly don't think you should get an extra off hand attack just because your primary weapon is a weapon of speed, mind you, but the wording of the rules makes it a bit unclear and I have seen people argue for it... the Frenzied Berzerker thing is a little more confusing though. honestly, somone should probably just e-mail Andy and/or Bruce and be done with it...I guess that somone will be me, since I mentioned it... I'll post their reply when I get it. hmm...ok I got Andy's e-mail addy...anyone know Bruce's? [/QUOTE]

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