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<blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 2196839" data-attributes="member: 30610"><p>IMC I do not accept that the PCs' ideas of what their chars believe is absolute. For example, what if one of them is subject to a suggestion spell? He can't say "Oh, I don't believe that hogwash." He's got to believe as his character does, or the system falls apart. Or what if he knows (metagame) but his character doesn't, that an enemy is vulnerable to a certain substance? I'm not going to allow his character to get away with having no ranks in any Knowledge skills simply because he can say "oh, my character just happens to believe this."</p><p></p><p>In the example above, it sounds like they only brought that up once he opened combat up with the golem breathing at them. That sounds fishy to me. I would, as I stated above, allow them some sort of Int check to recall the prior incident.</p><p></p><p>If, on the other hand, they clearly stated "we ready for those monsters we fought last time, and then we open the door" or something like that, then no, I would not rule they were surprised.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="moritheil, post: 2196839, member: 30610"] IMC I do not accept that the PCs' ideas of what their chars believe is absolute. For example, what if one of them is subject to a suggestion spell? He can't say "Oh, I don't believe that hogwash." He's got to believe as his character does, or the system falls apart. Or what if he knows (metagame) but his character doesn't, that an enemy is vulnerable to a certain substance? I'm not going to allow his character to get away with having no ranks in any Knowledge skills simply because he can say "oh, my character just happens to believe this." In the example above, it sounds like they only brought that up once he opened combat up with the golem breathing at them. That sounds fishy to me. I would, as I stated above, allow them some sort of Int check to recall the prior incident. If, on the other hand, they clearly stated "we ready for those monsters we fought last time, and then we open the door" or something like that, then no, I would not rule they were surprised. [/QUOTE]
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