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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2223416" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>The spectre gets a surprise round then, yes? And in the surprise round, it can ready.</p><p></p><p>That would work, I wouldn't do it that way, but it certainly could be done that way without breaking the rules for ready actions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>To me the question is not about suspicion or awareness, but at what point combat starts and how the situation is at this point. It doesn't matter what was before.</p><p></p><p>That is, after the door has been opened. At this point, both sides are aware of each other, so both sides get to act. Therefore, I'd not consider surprise in this scenario.</p><p></p><p>The spectre has the option to surprise the party, because it can sense them, but then it would have to <em>actively</em> do this, not just wait for them to open the door. At this point it forfeits that advantage and has to roll initiative like everyone else, because it is merely reacting to the party's actions now.</p><p></p><p>So, basically, the encounter starts with the spectre becoming aware of the party, but combat only starts after the door is opened. The spectre could do all sorts of things in the meantime (not ready, of course), but that won't speed up its reactions, once the door opens. Everyone is on the same level in that moment.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 2223416, member: 478"] The spectre gets a surprise round then, yes? And in the surprise round, it can ready. That would work, I wouldn't do it that way, but it certainly could be done that way without breaking the rules for ready actions. To me the question is not about suspicion or awareness, but at what point combat starts and how the situation is at this point. It doesn't matter what was before. That is, after the door has been opened. At this point, both sides are aware of each other, so both sides get to act. Therefore, I'd not consider surprise in this scenario. The spectre has the option to surprise the party, because it can sense them, but then it would have to [i]actively[/i] do this, not just wait for them to open the door. At this point it forfeits that advantage and has to roll initiative like everyone else, because it is merely reacting to the party's actions now. So, basically, the encounter starts with the spectre becoming aware of the party, but combat only starts after the door is opened. The spectre could do all sorts of things in the meantime (not ready, of course), but that won't speed up its reactions, once the door opens. Everyone is on the same level in that moment. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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