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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5620063" data-attributes="member: 92305">Check out pg. 163 of the 3.5 PHB.  You are partially correct, but didn't read it all. Hustle:  A hustle is a jog at about six miles per hour for an unencumbered human.  A character tha tmoves his speed twice in a single round.... That's the part you addressed above.  But, there's more. ....or moves that speed in the same round he performs a standard action or another move action is hustling when he moves.   Now maybe I've read this wrong, and if I have correct me, what what I see is this: Perform 1 Move action in a round and nothing else, you're Walking. Perform 2 Move actions, or perform 1 Move action and 1 Standard action during a round, you're Hustling. Therefore, half Speed is walking speed.   Now, I'm more than willing to be corrected.  And, I would like someone to correct me if I've read this wrong.  But, that's what it looks like it says, to me.   EDIT:  I'm going to leave the above even though I've found evidence that I'm wrong.  It explains where I was coming from. If you look at the Movement and Distance Chart, regardless of how the rule is written above, it shows a Walk = 1 Move Action.  So, Greenfield is correct, and what I said is off the mark. The chart shows Walk = 1 Move Action and Hustle = 2 Move Actions (which is wierd, given the way the rule is written above--though the chart makes more sense).       2nd EDIT:  This is interesting, too.  I'm looking at the RC, pg. 92.  This might shed some light on the screwy language in the Hide + Movement rule. It says: Move between Cover:  If you're already hiding thanks to cover or concealment, and you have at least 5 ranks in Hide, you can make a Hide check (with a penalty) to try to move across an area that doesn't offer cover or concealment without revealing yourself.  For every 5 ranks in Hide you possess, you can move up to 5 feet between one hiding place and another.  For every 5 feet of open space you must cross between hiding places, you take a -5 penalty on your Hide check.  Movement speed penalizes the check as normal. First off, this looks like a totally different rule from the one included under the Hide skill that we were using above.  It doesn't mention getting the distance of 1/2 Move without penalty. But, if you do get the 1/2 Move without penalty, and you have Speed 30, then (and you assumed the penalty maxed out at -20).... 5'-15' (1-3 squares) no penalty. 20' = -5 penalty. 25' = -10 penalty. 30' = -15 penalty. 35'+ = -20 penalty. Either way, that's a different rule from the first one we saw....maybe a change in the editions, from 3E to 3.5E?</blockquote>

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