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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5620230" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Yeah, that's right.Think about it.  He's crossing 20 feet of open ground, nothing to hide behind.  In essence, he's hoping that the guard will somehow not notice him during that exposed period.  In a world where, likely as not, shadows and natural darkness don't mean a thing (Low Light and Darkvision).The fact that he can try at all would stretch credibility to the breaking point in the real world.  It brings back that discussion we had on the No Facing rule.  I tend to play it as "no facing in combat".  Out of combat is another story.  So when you dart across that 20 feet of open ground, you're trying to time it for a moment when the guard is looking the other way.  If the guard is bored (-5 Distracted penalty to Spot) and is some distance away (Say 50 feet, for another -5), he's at a total of -10 on his Spot, and you're at a total of -12 on your Hide (+13 base and -25 penalty, from your example.)The odds aren't in your favor, but it's still possible.  He needs to outroll the other guy by 2, plus his actual Spot bonus.You just have to hope that he's a typical Fighter who didn't bother spending points on a cross-class skill like Spot. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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