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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5620425" data-attributes="member: 6674931">I completely disagree with you... devil's advocate.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />A creature with a movement of 30'....takes a move action to hide while moving at 25' per move action at -5and then...takes a move action to hide while moving at 30' per move action.... at -20??????    another -15 for those extra 5' ???....and when this creatures actually RUNS at 120 feet per round and attempts to hide while doing so... he takes the same penalty?I find this completely illogical.Moving at 25' per round, means that you are still "hustling", just as if you were "hustling" at 30'.Even the difference between half speed and faster is -5, not -15!!Moreover, Running is something totally different. A character cannot really pay attention to cover or concealment while running (-20). It is a concentrated effort to move as fast as possible (full round action). It has nothing to do with regular movement, by which a character is also capable of paying attention to various things in a battle or outside of it.Like I said in my earlier post, I'm certain that the wording has this small mistake. Again, what they really meant to say was:You can move up to one-half your normal speed and hide at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than half and up to your normal speed, you take a –5 penalty. You can take a –20 penalty on your Hide check to hide while attacking, running, or charging.</blockquote>

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