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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8145917" data-attributes="member: 72555">Suppose you want to do 2d20 for ability scores, but don't have enough d10s.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />You can just do 2x proficiency bonus for all ability checks, and ~3x for expertise.&nbsp; That'll get pretty close.Or, add both your proficiency bonus and a proficiency die. Which is fun. Expertise roll the die twice and take the better result.+2: 1d4+3: 1d6+4: 1d8+5: 1d10+6: 1d12The &quot;success and magnitude&quot; that you sometimes want can also leverage this.&nbsp; If you need a magnitude of success, you can take proficiency die plus attribute bonus (min 1).Int 16 profi +2 goes from +5 to +5+1d4, which is about 1.5xInt 20 prof +4 goes from +9 to +9+1d8, again about 1.5xInt 14 and +6 prof (expertise) from +8 to +8+2d6 1.6xInt 20 and +12 prof (expertise) from +17 to +17 +2d12 drop lowest is about 1.5x.Int 20 and +6 prof from +11 to +11+1d12 1.6x.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8145917, member: 72555"] Suppose you want to do 2d20 for ability scores, but don't have enough d10s. ;) You can just do 2x proficiency bonus for all ability checks, and ~3x for expertise. That'll get pretty close. Or, add both your proficiency bonus [B]and[/B] a proficiency die. Which is fun. Expertise roll the die twice and take the better result. +2: 1d4 +3: 1d6 +4: 1d8 +5: 1d10 +6: 1d12 The "success and magnitude" that you sometimes want can also leverage this. If you need a magnitude of success, you can take proficiency die plus attribute bonus (min 1). Int 16 profi +2 goes from +5 to +5+1d4, which is about 1.5x Int 20 prof +4 goes from +9 to +9+1d8, again about 1.5x Int 14 and +6 prof (expertise) from +8 to +8+2d6 1.6x Int 20 and +12 prof (expertise) from +17 to +17 +2d12 drop lowest is about 1.5x. Int 20 and +6 prof from +11 to +11+1d12 1.6x. [/QUOTE]

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