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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 2225403" data-attributes="member: 20741">I suppose it's not a &quot;surprise&quot; per se, but a simple 2nd level spell, web can cause more unavoidable, unsaveable havoc in a battle than any other spell (entangle comes close).It's a favorite of mine because my players are highly tactical and a web spell throws everything into chaos.&nbsp; There is no real &quot;save&quot; for web.&nbsp; It's just degrees of how scrooooed you are.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> There are some who think web is too useful a spell. Jim Pinto&nbsp; points out in World's Largest Dungeon that web is a phenomenally powerful spell underground and is inherently unbalancing.&nbsp; Whether you agree with Jim or not, not one single monster in the WLD has it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 2225403, member: 20741"] I suppose it's not a "surprise" per se, but a simple 2nd level spell, [I]web[/I] can cause more unavoidable, unsaveable havoc in a battle than any other spell ([I]entangle[/I] comes close). It's a favorite of mine because my players are highly tactical and a [I]web[/I] spell throws everything into chaos. There is no real "save" for web. It's just degrees of how scrooooed you are. :p There are some who think [I]web[/I] is [I]too[/I] useful a spell. Jim Pinto points out in [COLOR=SandyBrown][I]World's Largest Dungeon [/I][/COLOR] that [I]web[/I] is a phenomenally powerful spell underground and is inherently unbalancing. Whether you agree with Jim or not, not one single monster in the WLD has it. [/QUOTE]

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