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<blockquote data-quote="Emberashh" data-source="post: 9026257" data-attributes="member: 7040941"><p>If thats the case then theres a gap in the argument between that, and the game being "ruined" if removed. </p><p></p><p>With this clarification, the conclusion would be that the game would be "ruined" only from the perspective of people who like what the bug provides to the game, and as such whether or not removing the bug is a good idea comes down to a popularity question. </p><p></p><p>Though the analogy also tends to be missing parts anyway. In a video game, bugs like what you've pointed to tend to highlight a desire on part of the players for a more involved mechanical gameplay than the game is actually meant to provide, which is why those players actually like the bug. </p><p></p><p>But for something like 5e, flights problems don't really result in the same response. Surely there are players that enjoy exploiting it and would bemoan its fixing, but the relative minority of these players has to be balanced against the vast bulk that likely don't care, and the more important subset of players that are DMs, who are not only disproportionately affected in the negative by such bugs, but are a lot more vital to the game's longevity than non-DMs. </p><p></p><p>Ultimately, theres better avenues to satisfy the type of players that want these sorts of things (the same such avenues that are already consistently asked for to begin with), and shoring up flight rules so they're better balanced results in a better overall game.</p><p></p><p>So all that leaves is the, so far, two people who have a strange vendetta on flight in principle being a thing in a high fantasy game that regularly features all sorts of flying creatures alongside all kinds of high octane magic. </p><p></p><p>One can Wish an entire universe into existence and do it again after a nap, but flying around is, apparently, just a step too far. </p><p></p><p>Suffice to say, this practically nonexistent minority opinion can simply be disregarded. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😁" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f601.png" title="Beaming face with smiling eyes :grin:" data-shortname=":grin:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emberashh, post: 9026257, member: 7040941"] If thats the case then theres a gap in the argument between that, and the game being "ruined" if removed. With this clarification, the conclusion would be that the game would be "ruined" only from the perspective of people who like what the bug provides to the game, and as such whether or not removing the bug is a good idea comes down to a popularity question. Though the analogy also tends to be missing parts anyway. In a video game, bugs like what you've pointed to tend to highlight a desire on part of the players for a more involved mechanical gameplay than the game is actually meant to provide, which is why those players actually like the bug. But for something like 5e, flights problems don't really result in the same response. Surely there are players that enjoy exploiting it and would bemoan its fixing, but the relative minority of these players has to be balanced against the vast bulk that likely don't care, and the more important subset of players that are DMs, who are not only disproportionately affected in the negative by such bugs, but are a lot more vital to the game's longevity than non-DMs. Ultimately, theres better avenues to satisfy the type of players that want these sorts of things (the same such avenues that are already consistently asked for to begin with), and shoring up flight rules so they're better balanced results in a better overall game. So all that leaves is the, so far, two people who have a strange vendetta on flight in principle being a thing in a high fantasy game that regularly features all sorts of flying creatures alongside all kinds of high octane magic. One can Wish an entire universe into existence and do it again after a nap, but flying around is, apparently, just a step too far. Suffice to say, this practically nonexistent minority opinion can simply be disregarded. 😁 [/QUOTE]
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