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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 2673846" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>In a game I was in today, we did something silly. It went back to last session, and indeed, character generation.</p><p></p><p>We are a 9th-level Eberron party. No one in the party has any ranks in Survival. My character is from the Talenta plains, and another PC is a goblin - both of us should have had ranks in Survival, but didn't. I'm the wizard, and don't have <em>teleport</em> in my spellbook (this is by choice - I just don't like the spell). We had to go into a desert to retrieve two items, and the trip would take three days by horse. Since we had a cleric, water was not a problem.</p><p></p><p>We didn't have enough food with us. So we used our paladin's mount, a deinonychus, to hunt for us. It had a ridiculously high Survival check, so it kept us all well fed. Let's ignore how the raptor did that, okay? The DM was a bit annoyed by this, pointing out that it couldn't find food for the horses, so they starved. We ended up eating them.</p><p></p><p>We made it to the appointed site, nearly got slaughtered by the opposition, and made it out safely. Now we had to walk all the way back out, six days or so, and we had no horses. Worse, the guy playing the paladin was away, so we couldn't use his character or mount. The DM forgot to slow down our speed because of the hunting...</p><p></p><p>Due to sheer luck, we made ridiculously high untrained Survival checks, averaging (literally) quadruple our needs per day. I know I wasn't cheating! The DM pointed out that there was no food in the desert, but fortunately I have a bit of strictly book knowledge survival skills, so I was able to convince him that we could eat cacti. He pointed out we didn't know which ones were poisonous, and the other players argued that was part of making a Survival check.</p><p></p><p>In any event, IMO it's silly that you could feed yourself in a desert by making a Survival check of DC 10! Any group of three or four people would have no trouble surviving in a desert, then, since enough group members could just make high enough Survival checks and keep everyone fed and watered.</p><p></p><p>You could say the same thing about survival in any part of the world. Does anyone have a set of house rules they used based on terrain, and perhaps such things as "poisonous plants being common"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 2673846, member: 1165"] In a game I was in today, we did something silly. It went back to last session, and indeed, character generation. We are a 9th-level Eberron party. No one in the party has any ranks in Survival. My character is from the Talenta plains, and another PC is a goblin - both of us should have had ranks in Survival, but didn't. I'm the wizard, and don't have [i]teleport[/i] in my spellbook (this is by choice - I just don't like the spell). We had to go into a desert to retrieve two items, and the trip would take three days by horse. Since we had a cleric, water was not a problem. We didn't have enough food with us. So we used our paladin's mount, a deinonychus, to hunt for us. It had a ridiculously high Survival check, so it kept us all well fed. Let's ignore how the raptor did that, okay? The DM was a bit annoyed by this, pointing out that it couldn't find food for the horses, so they starved. We ended up eating them. We made it to the appointed site, nearly got slaughtered by the opposition, and made it out safely. Now we had to walk all the way back out, six days or so, and we had no horses. Worse, the guy playing the paladin was away, so we couldn't use his character or mount. The DM forgot to slow down our speed because of the hunting... Due to sheer luck, we made ridiculously high untrained Survival checks, averaging (literally) quadruple our needs per day. I know I wasn't cheating! The DM pointed out that there was no food in the desert, but fortunately I have a bit of strictly book knowledge survival skills, so I was able to convince him that we could eat cacti. He pointed out we didn't know which ones were poisonous, and the other players argued that was part of making a Survival check. In any event, IMO it's silly that you could feed yourself in a desert by making a Survival check of DC 10! Any group of three or four people would have no trouble surviving in a desert, then, since enough group members could just make high enough Survival checks and keep everyone fed and watered. You could say the same thing about survival in any part of the world. Does anyone have a set of house rules they used based on terrain, and perhaps such things as "poisonous plants being common"? [/QUOTE]
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