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<blockquote data-quote="kerbarian" data-source="post: 3210579" data-attributes="member: 40393"><p>Ugh, that makes it tougher. Assuming he sets up indigo and violet veils, there's really nothing that will touch him except melee attacks (or touch spells) that reach through the veils, and you'd have to make tough will saves every time you reach through. There's also not much point in trying to knock down the veils -- he can bring up a fresh set as an immediate action and keep pounding you with spells in the meantime.</p><p></p><p>Fortunately, the IotSFV veils don't say that they're immune to antimagic fields like prismatic wall is, so I think that's your only option -- go in inside an antimagic field and hope you can out-melee the monk 20 half of his build.</p><p></p><p>Actually, back to the touch spell thing... I suppose you could go with a major ring of spell storing holding Otto's irresistible dance. In fact, if you can find a high-level sublime chord or a bard with sudden maximize, you could even get maximized otto's irresistible dance in there. That would give you time to knock down the veils and then beat on him for a little while. Perhaps bring a second ring to continue the effect after the first 5 rounds. Unfortunately, you'd still have to beat his SR (and pass the will saves for reaching through the veils) for that to work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kerbarian, post: 3210579, member: 40393"] Ugh, that makes it tougher. Assuming he sets up indigo and violet veils, there's really nothing that will touch him except melee attacks (or touch spells) that reach through the veils, and you'd have to make tough will saves every time you reach through. There's also not much point in trying to knock down the veils -- he can bring up a fresh set as an immediate action and keep pounding you with spells in the meantime. Fortunately, the IotSFV veils don't say that they're immune to antimagic fields like prismatic wall is, so I think that's your only option -- go in inside an antimagic field and hope you can out-melee the monk 20 half of his build. Actually, back to the touch spell thing... I suppose you could go with a major ring of spell storing holding Otto's irresistible dance. In fact, if you can find a high-level sublime chord or a bard with sudden maximize, you could even get maximized otto's irresistible dance in there. That would give you time to knock down the veils and then beat on him for a little while. Perhaps bring a second ring to continue the effect after the first 5 rounds. Unfortunately, you'd still have to beat his SR (and pass the will saves for reaching through the veils) for that to work. [/QUOTE]
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