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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 1247694" data-attributes="member: 9298">a few more things;ash: jeff hates jon. so what? jeff is friends with COLBY. colby is a loser who threw the game. throwing the game is a lot worse than anything jon has done. also, i saw a lot of people in the survivor chat room proclaim that jon's lie was immoral or something similar, but they couldnt explain themselves at all. can you PLEASE explain to me how this lie is any worse than any other lie? it is not hurting anyone in any way.ghostwind's wife... i can easily see jon as a pothead. but a hardcore user? no... how would he survive on an island for 40 days? and a gang member? get real. hes a goof. who watches wrestling. hes the annoying version of rob from last year. no gang would let him in.quasqueton.... well, they didnt just LET them back in..there WAS a challenge. but i still sorta agree with you...i think andrew, being the one who got voted out when burton and lil were immune, was hosed the most by this rules change, and the fairest thing would be do to do it AGAIN when its down to 4 or 2, so EVERYONE gets a 2nd chance. i stand by my original opinion that the "ghost tribe" shouldve been able to play as spoilers only, and not be allowed back in, but it doesnt ruin it for me forever. Plus,  if the internet is to be believed, mark burnett has sworn never to do this again. So i'll still be here next time.ash again:  if thats the REAL lineup of survior all-stars...who do i root for? ALL of my favorites are there. richard, rudy, big tom, boston robb,and  magic 8 ball rob  plus others i'd like to see again... ethan, lex, sue, rupert.  and i can even root against all the pathetic losers from survivor2.  too bad JOHNNY FAIRPLAY isnt in it as he and Richard Hatch and Boston Robb would be the ultimate team. But again, I'll watch it and like it, but for the mainstream audience, this is really threatening over-doing it and hearing cries of "jumping the shark"DMScott... do you really think the editing ever leaves out anything TRULY important? i guarantee you that Darrah has really done NOTHING the entire time shes been on the isalnd.  But again, I really wish someone at CBS would wake up and smell the DVD sales. A box set with 2 or 3 hours versions of each 1 hour episode including extra player commentaries. Plus the reunion show and a special interview with lots of opinion from each player? LIKE HOTCAKES!and finally... Jon Crichton... are you serious about the jury voting for the best player???Then please explain Tina, Vecepia, and Jenna? None of them were the best player.Vecepia did NOTHING except annoy me with her constant praying, but at least you could argue that helen-backwards was the weakest final opponent that any of the winners had. (Except maybe Ethan vs Kim... who should have kept Lex) Tina won because she rode Colbys coattails, then he brought her to the finals instead of Keith, and then all but told the jury to vote for her instead of him.Jenna was another waste of space. Christy only changed her vote, not because Jenna played best, but because she never liked "creepy" Matt, and wanted to vote for girl-power. And Rob voted for her cleavage and was jealous that he carried Matt all the way, and Matt outlasted him.You can even argue that Brian over Clay was more a popularity thing than a best player thing. Clay had schemed just as well as Brian did to get to the end. (if not more, since hes "weaker") Richard remains the ONLY winner who was disliked more than his opponent and won because he played better.And of course looking back over the 6 seasons so far, once again the obvious problem with the show is that the final challenge of standing still in an uncomfortable position always favors young women. Kelly beat Richard and Rudy (age or gender?)Colby beat Tina and Keith (age)Kim beat Ethan and Lex (gender!)Helen-backwards beat Kathy and Vecepia (all women so it dont count, and a deal was struck before Vecepia gave up...ANOTHER reason Vecepia shouldnt have won)Brian beat Clay and ancient Jan (age)Jenna beat Matt and Rob (gender!)Three of the five had women beating men, two of those where at least one of the guys was "in shape".  The two of the five that men won , they were clearly much younger and in much better shape than the woman they beat. Also, the fact that 5 of 6 Survivors have gone down to 2 men and 1 woman implies that just maybe the Burton-Johnny Fairplay alliance will hold.  And Christa or Darrah would definately beat both of them in the final immunity, and Lil would definately lose it. (What about Sandra?)  But now I've turned Survivor into baseball statistics, time for bed.</blockquote>

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