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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6709342" data-attributes="member: 6689464">First of all my vote, I say wizard should go, it is such a limited concept. A well done sorcerer would make wizards redundant. i really hate how the designers of every edition lavish it with fun toys and stretch it so far to the point they break suspension of disbelief. and in real life there is no such a thing as a learned spellcaster, everything is inborn talent or dealing with the devil. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It was never the generic spellcaster it was supposed to be.... is the wizard that should die.Actually the opposite, the designers can't let go of the wizard and put subtle things to discourage you from playing anything else. Going from the playtest, sorcerer, turn into a mosnter, warlock grow old and ugly, psion sorry mystic scarred by the horrors of the far realm....You play either a wizard or you are a deformed ugly insane freak of nature. Be a disgusting monster or play a wizard!</blockquote>