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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 7500122" data-attributes="member: 57112">It's a bit off topic, but I tend to think of the most problematic aspect (even moreso than what you mention) of the "damsel in distress" trope is "woman as prize/trophy"; that is, that the reward for heroism is claim on the romantic (and in some cases overtly sexual) attentions of the woman rescued. This "woman as reward" trope is one of the primary sources of a ton of toxic ideas about expectations in relationships between men and women. It's the reason we have "nice guys", and all of the horrific movements that spawned from them.And that's me taking off my own Pop Culture Analysis 101 cap as well. In any case, I expect anybody's reasons for upvoting or downvoting in these threads to range from personal to arbitrary. In the other thread I'm downvoting the only movie left on the list I haven't seen yet. In the previous thread I downvoted Lovecraft first, because honestly <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> that guy, but I didn't think the lesser of anyone upvoting him. I just assumed they liked his stories, or the genre of horror they spawned (pun intended). At one point I was downvoting an author because he was a public proponent of Brexit, a policy which has literally zero bearing on me. At some point I'm sure I'll start downvoting Guy Gavriel Kay because his name is kind of annoying to say out loud, or something equally ridiculous and arbitrary, because the people I recognize that I'd downvote are already gone.These threads have gotten weirdly personal as of late, which is a shame, because this is supposed to be the fun place where we only pretend to get into deeply personal fan wank debates as a way to poke fun at the same. I'd blame the introduction of flesh and blood people (as opposed to more abstract concepts like classes and races) but IIRC it started in the video game thread, so I'm just going to go ahead and blame lowkey for not showing proper respect and ticking off the internet tone filter gnomes.</blockquote>

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