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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7490203" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>LOL  No.  No the only response isn't to call Gary a liar.  Hell, I haven't even gotten to the point where I know he even said those things.  I provided a solid argument.  Chainmail is the foundation for D&D and Tolkien influenced that foundation quite a bit.  That equates to Tolkien influencing the foundation of D&D.  You've done nothing but make an unsubstantiated claim about what Gygax said.  Right at this point in the conversation it has about as much weight as if I said that Gygax once said he loved riding mules through Moscow.  Since you claim that Gygax said multiple times that Tolkien didn't influence the game's foundation, it should be memorialized somewhere for you to link for me.  Once you do that, we can move past this point.  Right now you haven't even countered my argument yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>