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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 1351094" data-attributes="member: 177">Okay, I'm gonna be blunt.&nbsp; Blunt enough that you might not like what I asy at all.The DM handled this badly, but one can perhaps forgive him for not being prepared for the case where the players are terminally dumb.&nbsp; Do the words <a href="http://ublib.buffalo.edu/libraries/projects/lovecanal/background_lovecanal.html" target="_blank">&quot;Love Canal&quot;</a> mean anything to you?Did it not occur to you that a lich powerful enough that he could not before be permanently slain, dangerous enough that you should only deal with him in petrified form, could plane hop himself if he should ever become animate again?&nbsp; That would mean your &quot;solution&quot; would be about as effective as moving his statue three feet to the left, tossing a tablecloth over it, and hoping nobody notices him.&nbsp; &quot;Bury it in a hole and hope nobody finds it&quot; is hardly a solution to a major problem.Now, again, I think the DM handled this badly.&nbsp; I suppose if &quot;the gods&quot; had previously been meddlesome then having them say &quot;No!&quot; was at least consistent.&nbsp; If not, the proper method would probably have been to allow you to do as you pleased, and make you live with the consequences - perhaps have the lich come back a year and a day later and whup your characters' sorry behinds into the afterlife.&nbsp; The DM's decision may have broken your suspension of disbelief, but many GMs have problems applying lethal consequences to characters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 1351094, member: 177"] Okay, I'm gonna be blunt. Blunt enough that you might not like what I asy at all. The DM handled this badly, but one can perhaps forgive him for not being prepared for the case where the players are terminally dumb. Do the words [url=http://ublib.buffalo.edu/libraries/projects/lovecanal/background_lovecanal.html]"Love Canal"[/url] mean anything to you? Did it not occur to you that a lich powerful enough that he could not before be permanently slain, dangerous enough that you should only deal with him in petrified form, could plane hop himself if he should ever become animate again? That would mean your "solution" would be about as effective as moving his statue three feet to the left, tossing a tablecloth over it, and hoping nobody notices him. "Bury it in a hole and hope nobody finds it" is hardly a solution to a major problem. Now, again, I think the DM handled this badly. I suppose if "the gods" had previously been meddlesome then having them say "No!" was at least consistent. If not, the proper method would probably have been to allow you to do as you pleased, and make you live with the consequences - perhaps have the lich come back a year and a day later and whup your characters' sorry behinds into the afterlife. The DM's decision may have broken your suspension of disbelief, but many GMs have problems applying lethal consequences to characters. [/QUOTE]

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