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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4504505" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>No, it makes a difference in the case of Flaming Sphere, because it changes the meaning of the passage on p268.</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying is that the ranged power, Feather Fall, is a ranged attack, based on the way the phrase is used in several places in the PHB... and so the phrase "make a ranged attack" and "use a ranged power" can be synonymous.</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying is that "Making a ranged attack provokes an OA" (p268) and "Using a ranged power provokes an OA" (p271, p290) are mechanically identical statements. They're not telling us two different things; they're telling us the same thing three times, using two different phrasings which have the same meaning.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying that the authors have, unfortunately, chosen to use the word 'attack' in four different ways, which leads to ambiguity, and that reading p268 in isolation could lead one to believe that Twin Strike can provoke two OAs from a Boneclaw and Flaming Sphere can provoke one OA per round... but that reading p268 in conjunction with pp56, 271, and 290 strongly indicates that the phrase 'ranged attack' on p268 does not refer to a single attack roll, but rather to a power with the Ranged keyword.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying that p268 could have been worded differently to avoid confusion (avoiding the word 'attack' and its derivative phrases), but that its existing wording is not actually <em>incorrect</em>.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4504505, member: 1656"] No, it makes a difference in the case of Flaming Sphere, because it changes the meaning of the passage on p268. What I'm saying is that the ranged power, Feather Fall, is a ranged attack, based on the way the phrase is used in several places in the PHB... and so the phrase "make a ranged attack" and "use a ranged power" can be synonymous. What I'm saying is that "Making a ranged attack provokes an OA" (p268) and "Using a ranged power provokes an OA" (p271, p290) are mechanically identical statements. They're not telling us two different things; they're telling us the same thing three times, using two different phrasings which have the same meaning. I'm saying that the authors have, unfortunately, chosen to use the word 'attack' in four different ways, which leads to ambiguity, and that reading p268 in isolation could lead one to believe that Twin Strike can provoke two OAs from a Boneclaw and Flaming Sphere can provoke one OA per round... but that reading p268 in conjunction with pp56, 271, and 290 strongly indicates that the phrase 'ranged attack' on p268 does not refer to a single attack roll, but rather to a power with the Ranged keyword. I'm saying that p268 could have been worded differently to avoid confusion (avoiding the word 'attack' and its derivative phrases), but that its existing wording is not actually [i]incorrect[/i]. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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