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<blockquote data-quote="Fenros" data-source="post: 200792" data-attributes="member: 975"><p>Yeah, I've never had a problem with the Droids not remembering. I assume, that it Ep.3, to protect Luke and Leia, characters were sworn to secrecy, and certain droids had their memories erased.</p><p></p><p>What explanation I'm really eager to hear from Lucas is:</p><p></p><p>1> Why doesn't Vader recognize C-3PO in Cloud City?</p><p></p><p>B.S. Answer: Because C-3PO was on the back of Chewbacca the whole time and Vader would'nt have been able to really see him to recognize him.</p><p></p><p>Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: But if Vader is such an awesome Sith Lord with all the senses of someone so gifted in the Force, would'nt he have seen or HEARD C-3PO?</p><p></p><p>Super B.S. Answer: Okay, maybe he did recognize C-3PO, but kept to himself. It would be unseemly for a Sith Lord to suddenly stop talking to Lando and go, " Hey, I used to own that droid! Give it back!" Maybe Vader saw Threepio, made a mental note, then after Solo's carbon freeze, he amended the deal with Lando by saying, "Take the Wookie and the Princess to my ship". He said this knowing that he'd not only get great prisoners, but also Threepio back as well.......if he even cared.</p><p></p><p>Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: Okay, now you're actually putting more thought into this than Lucas has.</p><p></p><p></p><p>2.> Why doesn't Owen Lars recognize C-3PO when the Jawas are selling him?</p><p></p><p>B.S. Answer: Hey, Threepio never introduced himself to Owen, to him he was just another Protocol droid. Plus, when Owen knew him he had that burnt up set of coverings, not the golden ones he had in Ep4.</p><p></p><p>Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: Okay, I guess........thin, but it'll work.</p><p></p><p>3.>Biggest loop hole has to be why doesn't Obi-Wan recognize R2-D2?</p><p></p><p>B.S. Answer: Obi-Wan never really hung out with R2 in Ep1. Qui-Gon, Jar-Jar, Padme, and Anakin did. In Ep2, Padme had R2 during the 10 year interim, and during the movie R2 was with Padme and Anakin. So techinically, when Obi-Wan said, "I don't seem to ever remember ever owning a droid," he was telling the truth.</p><p></p><p>Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: Hmmmmmm........almost, but Obi-Wan IS aware of R2-D2's existence. R2 was monitoring Padme's sleeping chambers in the beginning of Ep2. In Episode 4, he looks at R2 as if he's seeing him for the first time. Or knowing of him.</p><p></p><p>B.S. Answer: Yeah, but come on.......let's say you have a friend who show's you his pet dog Frankie once. Are you going to recognize Frankie when you see him again 30 years later?</p><p></p><p>Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: I would if I had a sharp mind like a Jedi Knight.</p><p></p><p>B.S. Answer: Come on! Jedis are human too.</p><p></p><p>Black Omega wrote: </p><p></p><p>Maybe things like 'terrain mapping' were untouched when he had his memory erased? After all, its obvious when they went in and erased a lot of stuff, they left the personalities of both Threepio and R2 alone. Maybe data on planets they've been too were left alone. </p><p></p><p>No, wait.......that doesn't work either. Threepio obviously has lived on Tattoine a long time and in Ep4, he looks upon it as if he's never been there. And also shows no signs of being familiar with its geography or anything else.</p><p></p><p>I'm gonna assume R2 knew which general direction to head off because he just had sound reasoning. He just looked at the mountians, and thought.......if anyone was going to live around here, they'd probably take shelter in the mountains. Nothing more.</p><p></p><p></p><p>p.s. Posting this was such a pain, thank goodness I saved my post in Microsoft Word before hitting , "Submit Reply". I made the mistake of not doing that last week...........grrrrrrrrrrr.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fenros, post: 200792, member: 975"] Yeah, I've never had a problem with the Droids not remembering. I assume, that it Ep.3, to protect Luke and Leia, characters were sworn to secrecy, and certain droids had their memories erased. What explanation I'm really eager to hear from Lucas is: 1> Why doesn't Vader recognize C-3PO in Cloud City? B.S. Answer: Because C-3PO was on the back of Chewbacca the whole time and Vader would'nt have been able to really see him to recognize him. Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: But if Vader is such an awesome Sith Lord with all the senses of someone so gifted in the Force, would'nt he have seen or HEARD C-3PO? Super B.S. Answer: Okay, maybe he did recognize C-3PO, but kept to himself. It would be unseemly for a Sith Lord to suddenly stop talking to Lando and go, " Hey, I used to own that droid! Give it back!" Maybe Vader saw Threepio, made a mental note, then after Solo's carbon freeze, he amended the deal with Lando by saying, "Take the Wookie and the Princess to my ship". He said this knowing that he'd not only get great prisoners, but also Threepio back as well.......if he even cared. Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: Okay, now you're actually putting more thought into this than Lucas has. 2.> Why doesn't Owen Lars recognize C-3PO when the Jawas are selling him? B.S. Answer: Hey, Threepio never introduced himself to Owen, to him he was just another Protocol droid. Plus, when Owen knew him he had that burnt up set of coverings, not the golden ones he had in Ep4. Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: Okay, I guess........thin, but it'll work. 3.>Biggest loop hole has to be why doesn't Obi-Wan recognize R2-D2? B.S. Answer: Obi-Wan never really hung out with R2 in Ep1. Qui-Gon, Jar-Jar, Padme, and Anakin did. In Ep2, Padme had R2 during the 10 year interim, and during the movie R2 was with Padme and Anakin. So techinically, when Obi-Wan said, "I don't seem to ever remember ever owning a droid," he was telling the truth. Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: Hmmmmmm........almost, but Obi-Wan IS aware of R2-D2's existence. R2 was monitoring Padme's sleeping chambers in the beginning of Ep2. In Episode 4, he looks at R2 as if he's seeing him for the first time. Or knowing of him. B.S. Answer: Yeah, but come on.......let's say you have a friend who show's you his pet dog Frankie once. Are you going to recognize Frankie when you see him again 30 years later? Nick-Picky Counter Arguement: I would if I had a sharp mind like a Jedi Knight. B.S. Answer: Come on! Jedis are human too. Black Omega wrote: Maybe things like 'terrain mapping' were untouched when he had his memory erased? After all, its obvious when they went in and erased a lot of stuff, they left the personalities of both Threepio and R2 alone. Maybe data on planets they've been too were left alone. No, wait.......that doesn't work either. Threepio obviously has lived on Tattoine a long time and in Ep4, he looks upon it as if he's never been there. And also shows no signs of being familiar with its geography or anything else. I'm gonna assume R2 knew which general direction to head off because he just had sound reasoning. He just looked at the mountians, and thought.......if anyone was going to live around here, they'd probably take shelter in the mountains. Nothing more. p.s. Posting this was such a pain, thank goodness I saved my post in Microsoft Word before hitting , "Submit Reply". I made the mistake of not doing that last week...........grrrrrrrrrrr. [/QUOTE]
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