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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2321077" data-attributes="member: 31734">Hmm.&nbsp; Good point.&nbsp; The bite does both bludgeoning and at least one of the other two.&nbsp; I suppose he could bite his way out.&nbsp; That doesn't make it easy for someone without a weapon that does at least two types of damage, though, and I can't think that that's the intent.&nbsp;25 points of nonlethal damage.&nbsp; Do you really think that nonlethal damage results in a gaping hole in a creatures abdomen large enough for a man-sized or even horse-sized dragon to climb out? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;Maybe there's not a clear rules-leg to stand on here, but I just think that applying the damage to the creature severely devalues the swallow whole ability, arguably to a point where it becomes a detriment to swallow victims.&nbsp; With the right defenses, 'victims' might even decide not to escape the swallowing because it might be easier to damage the creature from the inside.&nbsp; As one example, the tendriculos in this example shouldn't get a reflex save from the dragon's breath weapon, right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2321077, member: 31734"] Hmm. Good point. The bite does both bludgeoning and at least one of the other two. I suppose he could bite his way out. That doesn't make it easy for someone without a weapon that does at least two types of damage, though, and I can't think that that's the intent. 25 points of [i]nonlethal[/i] damage. Do you really think that nonlethal damage results in a gaping hole in a creatures abdomen large enough for a man-sized or even horse-sized dragon to climb out? ;) Maybe there's not a clear rules-leg to stand on here, but I just think that applying the damage to the creature severely devalues the swallow whole ability, arguably to a point where it becomes a detriment to swallow victims. With the right defenses, 'victims' might even decide not to escape the swallowing because it might be easier to damage the creature from the inside. As one example, the tendriculos in this example shouldn't get a reflex save from the dragon's breath weapon, right? [/QUOTE]

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