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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 723177" data-attributes="member: 103">There seems to be two different views.One - a vital organ is a sensitive, soft, delicate thing.Two - a vital organ is exactly that - vital.  It can be sensitive, soft, delicate as would a brain.  However, it could also be tough, hard, and elastic much like a heart.(you all can guess where I lie on the matter <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)Just because an organ has a tough exterior does not mean that it is a not a vital organ.  To me it seems perfectly rational to say that the purple worm's stomach has a high AC and is a vital organ.  It has a high AC expressly because it is used to swallowing However, that is a separate issue from whether or not it is vital or not.  Once you bypass that tough lining, you get to the vital part.However, this is all irrelevant anyway.  The point of saying the entire organ was vital was to say that the rogue would have no problem pinpointing vital spots.  But the point about all of it being vital does not matter.  The fact that any part of it is vital is the important point.  The rogue is invisible so he gets sneak attack end of story.  The catch is if he can discern anatomy or not.For all of D&D 3E, the precedent has nothing to do with the situation the rogue is (a.k.a. his environment) assuming he can see of course, but rather the particular qualities of the creature in question.  There is a clear rules distinction between creatures with discernable anatomies and ones without.  Creatures with no discernable anatomies, like oozes for example are clearly different than a purple worm.  The purple worm most certainly has a discernable anatomy.  Now, can the rogue discern that anatomy from inside the worm.  I say yes - I consider the stomach of a creature to be discernable enough - you have a sphincter on the bottom going to the digestive tract and one above connecting to the throat.  If you can discern the worms anatomy from the outside without knowing the exact anatomical positioin of these sphincters it seems all the more reasonable to say that the rogue can discern the anatomy from the inside.  Remember discerning anatomy has nothing to do with the rogue's environment but with the creature in question.  Therefore, the only thing that remains is being able to reach those vitals.  Again, I would say that being surrounded by it defintely puts one in a position to target it.</blockquote>

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