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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7636127" data-attributes="member: 97077">The RAW is that like creatures share initiative anyway. It's still 10 creatures on one initiative count, but it's not like you're rolling 10 different initiatives for them, if that's a concern. As for your swarm, it seems a sound idea, but someone better at math than me will have to say if it has parity with the spell as written.But anyway, players have an obligation to pursue the goals of play, that is, everyone having a good time and contributing to the creation of an exciting, memorable story. If adding this spell to their repertoire and then spending 10 minutes longer than usual (or some noticeable amount of time) resolving it impacts achieving the goals of play because everyone else at the table is getting impatient and annoyed or bored (impacting the goal of fun), then the player is obliged to either not cast that spell or get good at resolving it faster. And if they don't realize this is one of their obligations, the DM and other players are well-advised to remind them of it in my view.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7636127, member: 97077"] The RAW is that like creatures share initiative anyway. It's still 10 creatures on one initiative count, but it's not like you're rolling 10 different initiatives for them, if that's a concern. As for your swarm, it seems a sound idea, but someone better at math than me will have to say if it has parity with the spell as written. But anyway, players have an obligation to pursue the goals of play, that is, everyone having a good time and contributing to the creation of an exciting, memorable story. If adding this spell to their repertoire and then spending 10 minutes longer than usual (or some noticeable amount of time) resolving it impacts achieving the goals of play because everyone else at the table is getting impatient and annoyed or bored (impacting the goal of fun), then the player is obliged to either not cast that spell or get good at resolving it faster. And if they don't realize this is one of their obligations, the DM and other players are well-advised to remind them of it in my view. [/QUOTE]

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