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<blockquote data-quote="delph" data-source="post: 8099193" data-attributes="member: 6996123">You'v quoted many chars with &quot;charisma&quot; but many of them just arn't &quot;swashbucklers&quot;. Aragorn and Carter are probably the most opposite characters to swashbuckler. Yes they can be &quot;characters with rollesd stats&quot; and have 16+ in all stats, but most of them dosn't use charisma to &quot;dominate battlefield&quot; Inteligence in DnD mean&nbsp; - study hills of book. You can do things really clever, but no one counts you because you are the weird one when you have low charisma. Charisma is &quot;I'm here. Lisen me. Focus on me. Do what I want&quot; thats why is paladin, warlock and sorcerer based on charisma.&nbsp; And thats why swashbuckler rogue subclass use charisma. And thats why I thin You shoud use charisma fot fighter subclass. The clever subclass of fighter is Eldritch knight.Every swashbuckling skill is based on charisma - persuation, deception, intimidate,... and yes, they can't be really silly, but not depend on int. They arn't inventors, engeneers, sages. They are entertainers, bards,... when I'm writing this I found really good &quot;swashbuckler&quot; in source books - Bard college of Sword. Use light max medium armor, one hand armor, can inspire their companions, confuse enemies and still they are really good with weapon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delph, post: 8099193, member: 6996123"] You'v quoted many chars with "charisma" but many of them just arn't "swashbucklers". Aragorn and Carter are probably the most opposite characters to swashbuckler. Yes they can be "characters with rollesd stats" and have 16+ in all stats, but most of them dosn't use charisma to "dominate battlefield" Inteligence in DnD mean - study hills of book. You can do things really clever, but no one counts you because you are the weird one when you have low charisma. Charisma is "I'm here. Lisen me. Focus on me. Do what I want" thats why is paladin, warlock and sorcerer based on charisma. And thats why swashbuckler rogue subclass use charisma. And thats why I thin You shoud use charisma fot fighter subclass. The clever subclass of fighter is Eldritch knight. Every swashbuckling skill is based on charisma - persuation, deception, intimidate,... and yes, they can't be really silly, but not depend on int. They arn't inventors, engeneers, sages. They are entertainers, bards,... when I'm writing this I found really good "swashbuckler" in source books - Bard college of Sword. Use light max medium armor, one hand armor, can inspire their companions, confuse enemies and still they are really good with weapon. [/QUOTE]

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