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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 288589" data-attributes="member: 172">Great, yeah. Too great. Too narrow. Too focussed.Not to mention I have NEVER been fond of the idea of the assassin as a core class. Even back in 1e. I mean: do you really start out as an assassin?Read the Vlad Taltos books sometimes if you want my take on how assassins SHOULD be.And that's not sufficient?Taking 20 is shorthand for &quot;trying this over and over again until I succeed.&quot; Saying you can &quot;always take 20&quot; is nonsensical, because taking 20 is explicitly risking failing the task several times before you succeed by definition. Not something you want to be doing when you are (for example) trying to pass yourself of in a disguise.What they seem to mean when they say this (I have seen two other publishers make this same gaff) is &quot;take 10 with a +10 bonus.&quot; It might have been okay if they had said that... IF you are comfortable handing out +10 bonuses in the first place. Even rogues don't get skill mastery until high levels, let alone get a +10 to go along with it.Indeed it did! Which is why I LIKED WotS and gave it a 4. I'm saying this is a good thing about SA, a redeeming quality amidst some design decisions that do not endear.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Psion, post: 288589, member: 172"] Great, yeah. Too great. Too narrow. Too focussed. Not to mention I have NEVER been fond of the idea of the assassin as a core class. Even back in 1e. I mean: do you really start out as an assassin? Read the Vlad Taltos books sometimes if you want my take on how assassins SHOULD be. And that's not sufficient? Taking 20 is shorthand for "trying this over and over again until I succeed." Saying you can "always take 20" is nonsensical, because taking 20 is explicitly risking failing the task several times before you succeed [i]by definition.[/i] Not something you want to be doing when you are (for example) trying to pass yourself of in a disguise. What they seem to mean when they say this (I have seen two other publishers make this same gaff) is "take 10 with a +10 bonus." It might have been okay if they had said that... IF you are comfortable handing out +10 bonuses in the first place. Even rogues don't get skill mastery until high levels, let alone get a +10 to go along with it. Indeed it did! Which is why I LIKED WotS and gave it a 4. I'm saying this is a [i]good thing[/i] about SA, a redeeming quality amidst some design decisions that do not endear. [/QUOTE]

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