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<blockquote data-quote="Blacksad" data-source="post: 288905" data-attributes="member: 1359">Where shall I begin?And if there is only one, which one?<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/series/-/396/mass_market/ref=ref=pd_sim_series/103-6106656-5829438" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/series/-/396/mass_market/ref=ref=pd_sim_series/103-6106656-5829438</a>for the assassin, they say:&quot;starting at 3rd level, the assassin can take a 20 instead of making a roll when making a skill check for either bluff, diplomacy, disguise or sense motive in a social situation or attempting to disguise their identity. Normally a 20 may not be taken on such rolls. This may be done once per day.&quot;It seems fine rules wise, it doesn't refer to the action &quot;taking 20&quot;, and even give some exlanation to avoid confusion.using the rules in the DMG p 242an item that grant a +10 once per day would cost 400 gpSo I don't think that it's a big deal to have such ability in a low magic setting.The courtier ability (at level 12)say that you can take 20 as a free action, up to this point it's fine, except that it is on sense motive which you can't retry.Is my half-rank in english not sufficient to understand you?I thought you meant that OA, TQF, and WotS didn't do that<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blacksad, post: 288905, member: 1359"] Where shall I begin? And if there is only one, which one? [url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/series/-/396/mass_market/ref=ref=pd_sim_series/103-6106656-5829438[/url] for the assassin, they say: "starting at 3rd level, the assassin can take a 20 instead of making a roll when making a skill check for either bluff, diplomacy, disguise or sense motive in a social situation or attempting to disguise their identity. Normally a 20 may not be taken on such rolls. This may be done once per day." It seems fine rules wise, it doesn't refer to the action "taking 20", and even give some exlanation to avoid confusion. using the rules in the DMG p 242 an item that grant a +10 once per day would cost 400 gp So I don't think that it's a big deal to have such ability in a low magic setting. The courtier ability (at level [i]12[/i])say that you can take 20 as a free action, up to this point it's fine, except that it is on sense motive which you can't retry. Is my half-rank in english not sufficient to understand you? I thought you meant that OA, TQF, and WotS didn't do that:confused: [/QUOTE]

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