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Swift spell as Standard Action?
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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 3100339" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>You can already take a move action in place of a standard action, so you can take two move actions in one round.</p><p></p><p>I see no problem with a rule that stated you could take a second swift action in place of a standard action, so that you could take two swift actions in one round.</p><p></p><p>I think a lot of the current dissonance arises from the fact that a swift action is supposed to take less time to complete than a move action, but is generally more valuable. So, even if a DM is prepared to allow a PC to take a second swift action as a standard action, he might not be willing to allow a second swift action as a move action.</p><p></p><p>One way to circumvent the argument that if you could slow down a swift action, you might as well slow it down to a move action is to rule that the second swift action isn't being slowed down. Using a swift action requires a small bit of effort, so you normally have to wait till your next turn to use another one. However, as a standard action, you can regain the ability to use a swift action. I guess we can call this "refocus" since there is no longer a "refocus" in 3.5e (rolled into "delay"). What you're doing with your standard action is not specified - you could be clearing your mind, catching your breath, whatever. So, if the distinction is important to you, you're not slowing down a swift action. You're using a standard action to prepare yourself to take another swift action in the same round, and it has to be a standard action because it requires more effort than what you can accomplish with a move action.</p><p></p><p>Works for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 3100339, member: 3424"] You can already take a move action in place of a standard action, so you can take two move actions in one round. I see no problem with a rule that stated you could take a second swift action in place of a standard action, so that you could take two swift actions in one round. I think a lot of the current dissonance arises from the fact that a swift action is supposed to take less time to complete than a move action, but is generally more valuable. So, even if a DM is prepared to allow a PC to take a second swift action as a standard action, he might not be willing to allow a second swift action as a move action. One way to circumvent the argument that if you could slow down a swift action, you might as well slow it down to a move action is to rule that the second swift action isn't being slowed down. Using a swift action requires a small bit of effort, so you normally have to wait till your next turn to use another one. However, as a standard action, you can regain the ability to use a swift action. I guess we can call this "refocus" since there is no longer a "refocus" in 3.5e (rolled into "delay"). What you're doing with your standard action is not specified - you could be clearing your mind, catching your breath, whatever. So, if the distinction is important to you, you're not slowing down a swift action. You're using a standard action to prepare yourself to take another swift action in the same round, and it has to be a standard action because it requires more effort than what you can accomplish with a move action. Works for me. [/QUOTE]
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